General : Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2019)

[cheekyangus]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I can now reveal that the Smithsonian Channel will launch on channel 295 on VM from Tuesday 12 February.

Thanks. You don't happen to know the packages it will be on do you?

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin

Something was afoot last night, as 113 was removed from my Favourites.

I removed it from my Favs manually recently so I couldn't say the same.

[Ultimate.Conj]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I can now reveal that the Smithsonian Channel will launch on channel 295 on VM from Tuesday 12 February.

Cheers, OB.

Any new on the 4K content from Smithsonian? Maybe they will add some of those programmes to the UHD channel

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by cheekyangus

Thanks. You don't happen to know the packages it will be on do you?

I would have said it was on the Player pack along with PBS America, but as this is an HD channel on Virgin, they may be adding this to the Full House and VIP packs only. I am afraid I have only speculation to go by on this question at present.

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj

Cheers, OB.

Any new on the 4K content from Smithsonian? Maybe they will add some of those programmes to the UHD channel

As I understand it, we are getting Smithsonian in HD, but not UHD. But as to whether VM have a deal with Smithsonian to add UHD to Virgin Media UHD, I don't know. All I can say is that there is no sign of such programming on the Virgin Media UHD channel on the EPG to date.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It also includes OTT, not just linear channels. The LG policy is to take content rather that launch its own channels, but I don't think they are adhering slavishly to the principle. For example, we do have the Virgin UHD channel, driven I think from the lack of available content elsewhere.

The 2018 thread saw a brief reprieve earlier today, much like linear television with Serie A moving from an ailing streaming service to Premier Sports.

I’m fully aware that cable operators bundling OTT streaming technology in their products would utilise different technologies. What I want to know is how that’s discernibly different for the end user than what we have now with live television bundled alongside libraries of on demand content from different content providers.

[cheekyangus]

No worries. Thanks Old Boy. As it's distributed by same company as LoveNature I wouldn't be surprised about Full House and VIP, and UHD via VMUHD channel.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

The 2018 thread saw a brief reprieve earlier today, much like linear television with Serie A moving from an ailing streaming service to Premier Sports.

I’m fully aware that cable operators bundling OTT streaming technology in their products would utilise different technologies. What I want to know is how that’s discernibly different for the end user than what we have now with live television bundled alongside libraries of on demand content from different content providers.

The discernable difference will be more obvious with time, as the content available to linear channels becomes ever more restricted with the rise and rise of streaming services.

Those linear channels not commissioning their own original content will resort more and more to reality programmes and other cheap rubbish as their access to quality drama from other studios dries up.

Picture quality will also improve with new UHD content. Additionally, as we end up with bundles of streaming services rather than bundles of channels, there should be less rubbish being forced on us, although I cannot rule out lots of new cheap streaming services provided free of extra charge by Sky and VM containing a fair proportion of, well, rubbish!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The discernable difference will be more obvious with time, as the content available to linear channels becomes ever more restricted with the rise and rise of streaming services.

Those linear channels not commissioning their own original content will resort more and more to reality programmes and other cheap rubbish as their access to quality drama from other studios dries up.

Picture quality will also improve with new UHD content. Additionally, as we end up with bundles of streaming services rather than bundles of channels, there should be less rubbish being forced on us, although I cannot rule out lots of new cheap streaming services provided free of extra charge by Sky and VM containing a fair proportion of, well, rubbish!

Ah, so it's based on the same assumption as the rest of your "streaming is the future" predictions - that streaming and linear are somehow mutually exclusive and that major content companies won't continue to utilise both. No point in wasting another thread on the same basis, really. Anyone can just find any of the seven topics you've started on the matter.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Ah, so it's based on the same assumption as the rest of your "streaming is the future" predictions - that streaming and linear are somehow mutually exclusive and that major content companies won't continue to utilise both. No point in wasting another thread on the same basis, really. Anyone can just find any of the seven topics you've started on the matter.

Well, you did ask. If you don’t accept my interpretation of the trend that is becoming obvious, or the BBC’s own assessment of where it will be in the mid-2030s, I guess you are entitled to it. No doubt you will attempt to justify your conclusion at some point.

[Raider999]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The discernable difference will be more obvious with time, as the content available to linear channels becomes ever more restricted with the rise and rise of streaming services.

Those linear channels not commissioning their own original content will resort more and more to reality programmes and other cheap rubbish as their access to quality drama from other studios dries up.

Picture quality will also improve with new UHD content. Additionally, as we end up with bundles of streaming services rather than bundles of channels, there should be less rubbish being forced on us, although I cannot rule out lots of new cheap streaming services provided free of extra charge by Sky and VM containing a fair proportion of, well, rubbish!

Keeping all bases open then.

As Eleven Sports have found out streaming is not a money tree.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Raider999

Keeping all bases open then.

As Eleven Sports have found out streaming is not a money tree.

As OB has pointed out on many occasions, the streaming is not solely for sport!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Raider999

Keeping all bases open then.

As Eleven Sports have found out streaming is not a money tree.

As per usual like a obfuscating politician he ignores that and continues on his one man band of unsubstantiated delusion.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Raider999

Keeping all bases open then.

As Eleven Sports have found out streaming is not a money tree.

The streaming was not an issue, though! They have been more successful in other countries.

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Originally Posted by denphone

As per usual like a obfuscating politician he ignores that and continues on his one man band of unsubstantiated delusion.

Your gramophone needle has got stuck again, Den. You yourself acknowledged that it was their business model that sunk them.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Your gramophone needle has got stuck again, Den. You yourself acknowledged that it was their business model that sunk them.

And that is why despite the huge profits that are made the financial business numbers for Amazon and any of the other streaming giants simply do not add up and never will do when it comes to the big football rights auctions in this country as streaming is fine and dandy for the many excellent series and movies that can be found on there but that is it and that is the way it will always remain despite your insistent flag waving protestations.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

And that is why despite the huge profits that are made the financial business numbers for Amazon and any of the other streaming giants simply do not add up and never will do when it comes to the big football rights auctions in this country as streaming is fine and dandy for the many excellent series and movies that can be found on there but that is it and that is the way it will always remain despite your insistent flag waving protestations.

You are obsessed with the notion that sport streaming is doomed to failure.

In which case, you might like to take a look at this.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...e-on-apple-tv/

I'm afraid to tell you that it's happening whether you like it or not.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You are obsessed with the notion that sport streaming is doomed to failure.

In which case, you might like to take a look at this.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2019...e-on-apple-tv/

I'm afraid to tell you that it's happening whether you like it or not.

Hmmmm you left one country out there OB which will give you a clear clue and that country is the UK as the UK sports rights market is very much different from those abroad as you are quickly finding out.