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Old 23-04-2019, 22:24   #1741
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Nah, only a fool would believe it.
Yeah turn the other cheek and love for your neighbour have no place in the clever person's world
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Old 23-04-2019, 23:08   #1742
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Old 24-04-2019, 11:04   #1743
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Anne Widdecombe has resigned from the Tory party to join and stand as a candidate for Farrages party, citing that the way Brexit has been handled has made us a laughing stock.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48034732

Never thought i'd see her defect.
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Anne Widdecombe has resigned from the Tory party to join and stand as a candidate for Farrages party, citing that the way Brexit has been handled has made us a laughing stock.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48034732

Never thought i'd see her defect.
Well she defected from C of E to RC, so she's got form as a troublemaker
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Old 24-04-2019, 12:04   #1745
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Well she defected from C of E to RC, so she's got form as a troublemaker
On the contrary, it shows she is truly a religious/social/political conservative. It is perceived social liberalism in the C of E that has resulted in a number of defections to Rome, and it is the Conservative PM's failure to deliver on a referendum called as a result of Conservative policy and whose outcome clearly still enjoys very widespread support amongst Conservative voters (as well as others) that has caused her to jump ship now.

A phrase I often hear grassroots Tories recite at times like this is 'I never left the party, the party left me'.

On the other hand, doing Strictly and Big Brother ... they show off her form as a troublemaker.
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Old 24-04-2019, 12:14   #1746
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On the contrary, it shows she is truly a religious/social/political conservative. It is perceived social liberalism in the C of E that has resulted in a number of defections to Rome, and it is the Conservative PM's failure to deliver on a referendum called as a result of Conservative policy and whose outcome clearly still enjoys very widespread support amongst Conservative voters (as well as others) that has caused her to jump ship now.

A phrase I often hear grassroots Tories recite at times like this is 'I never left the party, the party left me'.

On the other hand, doing Strictly and Big Brother ... they show off her form as a troublemaker.
Yes probably why Tony Blair went RC too !

I can see why the Archbishop of Canterbury going on about poverty and food banks, has upset some Conservatives. They'll have women priests and treat them as equals next !
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Old 24-04-2019, 13:19   #1747
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Well she defected from C of E to RC, so she's got form as a troublemaker
It shows that she can think for herself rather than mindlessly following the crowd.
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Old 24-04-2019, 21:01   #1748
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It shows that she can think for herself rather than mindlessly following the crowd.
Isn't that exactly what she has done?
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Old 24-04-2019, 21:23   #1749
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Isn't that exactly what she has done?
No.

And whoever keeps bringing religion on to this topic. - Pack it in!!!
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Old 26-04-2019, 10:30   #1750
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Yeah turn the other cheek and love for your neighbour have no place in the clever person's world
Seems highly relevant to Brexit.

May was/is not a clever person yet she did just that and let the EU crap all over her.

The clever person would have told the EU when this stuff (A50) started that we were leaving in two years and invited the EU’s proposals. We would have used the 2 years for No Deal preparations and the Backstop would not have been able to be proposed by the EU.

Maybe it did have something to do with TM’s religious beliefs!
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Old 26-04-2019, 10:45   #1751
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Seems highly relevant to Brexit.

May was/is not a clever person yet she did just that and let the EU crap all over her.

The clever person would have told the EU when this stuff (A50) started that we were leaving in two years and invited the EU’s proposals. We would have used the 2 years for No Deal preparations and the Backstop would not have been able to be proposed by the EU.

Maybe it did have something to do with TM’s religious beliefs!
May is just completely inept. Even outside of Brexit-related issues, what has she got right?
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Old 26-04-2019, 10:50   #1752
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May is just completely inept. Even outside of Brexit-related issues, what has she got right?
A pretty spot on analysis..
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May is just completely inept. Even outside of Brexit-related issues, what has she got right?
She knows my first name!
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Old 26-04-2019, 11:10   #1754
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She knows my first name!
I suspect you're Norman Tebbit in disguise. A very perfidious, hegemonic bloke
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Seems highly relevant to Brexit.

May was/is not a clever person yet she did just that and let the EU crap all over her.

The clever person would have told the EU when this stuff (A50) started that we were leaving in two years and invited the EU’s proposals. We would have used the 2 years for No Deal preparations and the Backstop would not have been able to be proposed by the EU.

Maybe it did have something to do with TM’s religious beliefs!
you know know the backstop was a uk proposal right and a no deal breaks the good Friday agreement and US have warned if that broke no trade deal

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.dad515e4d187
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