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Old 22-03-2013, 00:30   #3496
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

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I think what TH meant to ask is during the humps, what were you doing? P2P; Uploading?

That would amplify on TBB whatever interference you get from others on your segment.
What I meant was I trust beast knows his network. If its internal then shame on you Beast! Shame!!!!!
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Old 22-03-2013, 00:40   #3497
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What I meant was I trust beast knows his network. If its internal then shame on you Beast! Shame!!!!!
Doesn't tie in with what you said.

If my interpretation is not what you meant, then you don't know what you're talking about, I'm afraid.
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Old 22-03-2013, 00:46   #3498
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

what are you on about? I said...

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your on shared network capacity. it can be someone else running it which is on the same connection channels as you.
putting aside doubts of his own LAN/WLAN which is why I didn't mean to ask anything LAN/WLAN related. that means I trust beast to know his network and I put the blame away from his network.
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Old 22-03-2013, 00:52   #3499
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

If you put the blame away from his network, what might be happening away from his network? If Roughbeast knows his own network, he'd know or at least suspect it was away from his network.

What he wants to know is what is happening away from his network.

You'll see from my post here, that I did some analysis and confirmed where the problem might be occurring (which Roughbeast had sort of identified).

He now needs to take this to VM.

EDIT: In response to the first part of your edit above, I at least asked him what he was doing on his side at the time of the phenomenon.
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Old 22-03-2013, 00:58   #3500
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

edit response. exactly. thats what you asked and what you meant to ask not me.
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Old 22-03-2013, 07:58   #3501
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

Stop it girls!

I am not concerned about those brief regular spikes, only about the bump that is lasting from 6-10 pm. The former, I haven't a clue about. The latter affects my performance just when I need it to be top notch.

It has been apparent for about 48 hours now.

Sorry about head end misidentification Seph. My understanding of the network is not to be taken as read! What I do know is that the bumps are nothing to do with my home set up.
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

Roughbeast - it's the hump I'm concerning myself with. There's still the question I posed to Dwarven about what his circuit end is doing during the hump period. Is the hump a regular occurrence now? If Dwarven were doing something like p2p or uploading, if he stopped doing that, would the hump abate?

Are Dwarven's channels the same now as they were before the hump? The answers to these questions could paint a picture of why this is happening now that we've identified from the reverse traceroute where the bottleneck appears to be.
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Old 22-03-2013, 10:33   #3503
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Roughbeast - it's the hump I'm concerning myself with. There's still the question I posed to Dwarven about what his circuit end is doing during the hump period. Is the hump a regular occurrence now? If Dwarven were doing something like p2p or uploading, if he stopped doing that, would the hump abate?

Are Dwarven's channels the same now as they were before the hump? The answers to these questions could paint a picture of why this is happening now that we've identified from the reverse traceroute where the bottleneck appears to be.
For my part, I have not done any P2P uploading or downloading for over a week. My bumps appear to be regular and unrelated to anything I am doing here. My only background uploading is for Livedrive. This occurs regularly throughout a 24 hour period and in response to changes in files on the drives it monitors. Its uploads are not limited to the mid-evening bump slot.

Here's a tracert taken just now. No bump ATM.


Tracing route to speedtest4.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.107.197]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms REDDWARF [192.168.1.1]
2 6 ms 9 ms 5 ms 10.14.112.1
3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms brhm-core-2a-ae3-1179.network.virginmedia.net [2
13.106.229.161]
4 8 ms 9 ms 7 ms brhm-bb-1c-ae17-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.25
3.174.73]
5 10 ms 11 ms 16 ms nrth-bb-1c-et-400-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.
253.174.226]
6 9 ms 9 ms 11 ms nrth-bb-1b-ae11-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.25
3.174.109]
7 11 ms 11 ms 24 ms tele-ic-4-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [62.253.
174.18]
8 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms linx-gw1.thn.ncuk.net [195.66.224.240]
9 67 ms 63 ms 69 ms speedtest4.thinkbroadband.com [80.249.107.197]

Trace complete.
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

So, what you're saying is that there is regular upstream activity on your system much of the time. Is it not so that if you suspended that activity, the hump would be less pronounced? It's your contribution to the hump that I'm trying to get at. From where I'm sat (miles away), I couldn't say that what you're experiencing isn't influenced by what your system is doing. That's the challenge of diagnosis by forum!

Any change in upstream/downstream channel numbers when the hump started?
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So, what you're saying is that there is regular upstream activity on your system much of the time. Is it not so that if you suspended that activity, the hump would be less pronounced? It's your contribution to the hump that I'm trying to get at. From where I'm sat (miles away), I couldn't say that what you're experiencing isn't influenced by what your system is doing. That's the challenge of diagnosis by forum!

Any change in upstream/downstream channel numbers when the hump started?
I will check channel numbers before and after this evening, and then let you know.

I understand what you are saying about my regular up load arrangements. However, these uploads are usually triggered by relatively small changes in small files on monitored drives. eg working Word or Excel files.They tend to be very brief upload sessions. Larger prolonged uploads only take place when I manually submit large video files or numerous music files to the Livedrive cloud. This I have not done for a week or so.

I also understand that my usage impinges on the over all profile of the TBB graph and that this applies whether or not there is a bump. My current upload / download patterns have applied for years now. I deliberately avoid evenings for P2P activity, such as torrents. The only thing that has changed is the evening bump. A few days ago it wasn't there, but now it is. My usage behaviour has not changed during that time. I may contribute minutely to the size of the bump, but I am not causing it, as I didn't with the virtually nationwide mid-evening bump of late 2012.
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

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I hope that VM have added this to their lessons learned file. Release the upstream constraint and the downstream (that depends on upstream) demand rises significantly
Isp's never learn from this, even ignition who has worked for VM. Still has the belief that when speed is increased usage doesnt go up by much. He did give me some stats to back up what he said but time and time again we all see isp's get themselves into bother when they increase speeds. They they say the same thing everytime after which is they were surprised by the increased demand.
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Roughbeast - it's the hump I'm concerning myself with. There's still the question I posed to Dwarven about what his circuit end is doing during the hump period. Is the hump a regular occurrence now? If Dwarven were doing something like p2p or uploading, if he stopped doing that, would the hump abate?

Are Dwarven's channels the same now as they were before the hump? The answers to these questions could paint a picture of why this is happening now that we've identified from the reverse traceroute where the bottleneck appears to be.
My upstream channel hasn't changed since I got my speed upgrade at the beginning of the year, my downstream ones changed last week when I lost service for about 30 mins in the middle of the night.

I haven't done any p2p or uploading either, typically at that time of night Im playing World of Warcraft or watching tv
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So, what you're saying is that there is regular upstream activity on your system much of the time. Is it not so that if you suspended that activity, the hump would be less pronounced? It's your contribution to the hump that I'm trying to get at. From where I'm sat (miles away), I couldn't say that what you're experiencing isn't influenced by what your system is doing. That's the challenge of diagnosis by forum!

Any change in upstream/downstream channel numbers when the hump started?
as I mentioned, this wasnt unique to Dwarven

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Only affecting a handful of users, more likely to be a more localised issue than a national routing problem







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No hump on mine last night, so it's definitely just certain users.
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Old 22-03-2013, 21:03   #3510
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Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)

Power went out for lots of people near me, mines come back on but it seems most have not. I am currently enjoying a significantly less congested connection =D
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