UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[Dave42]

oven ready deal yeah right

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Bad news for them then, as under the Dublin act we would just send them back to France/ Italy/Greece etc.

Whereas after we have left it will be back to Sudan or wherever

Presumably we can send them all back to the first EU country they arrived in at the moment.

From next year, it is only those who don't qualify for asylum who will be deported. So there will be more asylum cases processed in the UK.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Bad news for them then, as under the Dublin act we would just send them back to France/ Italy/Greece etc.

Whereas after we have left it will be back to Sudan or wherever

... who'll tell us to get stuffed.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Presumably we can send them all back to the first EU country they arrived in at the moment.

From next year, it is only those who don't qualify for asylum who will be deported. So there will be more asylum cases processed in the UK.

Explain again how one qualifies for Asylum, I'd worry if I was moaning at the wrong people

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Presumably we can send them all back to the first EU country they arrived in at the moment.

From next year, it is only those who don't qualify for asylum who will be deported. So there will be more asylum cases processed in the UK.

Where to? They'll not have any documents.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

Explain again how one qualifies for Asylum, I'd worry if I was moaning at the wrong people

I don't think I've ever explained it in the first place. Here's the UK Government's take https://www.gov.uk/claim-asylum/eligibility

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Where to? They'll not have any documents.

You may have a point there!

[OLD BOY]

I think maybe we need to introduce sharks to the North Sea. That would make them think twice. Or maybe invite rocket man Kim over for a bit of target practice.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Dave42

oven ready deal yeah right

That referred to the Transitional Deal ONLY. That is done and dusted and IN PLACE.

[1andrew1]

Terrifying scoop from The Sun on Sunday. Shows why we need to extend the transisition period.

The Sun has seen the doomsday classified document designed to kickstart ministers into a major planning operation to see off disaster. It reveals:

- One in 20 Town Halls could go bust in a second Covid wave, sparking social care chaos.
- The economic impact of the virus and Brexit could cause public disorder, shortages and price hikes.
- Troops may have to be drafted on to the streets to help the police in the worst-case scenario — 1,500 are already on stand by.
- Social distancing measures and masks will have to continue until 2021 regardless.
- Supplies of food and fuel are all under threat this Christmas if Dover becomes blocked.
- Downing Street is pushing hard for a trade deal but is making contingency plans for an “unruly” exit from the EU transition period at the end of December.

With trade talks looking set to go the wire, there is a risk they collapse — putting up trade barriers overnight on 1 January.

In that scenario planners believe France will force “mandatory controls on UK goods from day one” and between 40 and 70 per cent of hauliers travelling across the Channel may not be ready for this.

That could see flow between Dover and Calais down 45 per cent for three months, triggering long queues of HGVs in Kent.

It's not so great for those living in UK dependencies:

The outlook is also bleak for Gibraltar and the Channel Islands, both reliant on imports.
Gibraltar could be cut off from Spain and economically crippled and the Channel Islands may need airdrops of medicines and food.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/124745...s-second-wave/

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Terrifying scoop from The Sun on Sunday. Shows why we need to extend the transisition period.



It's not so great for those living in UK dependencies:


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/124745...s-second-wave/

The Sun changed its tune, wonder what game it is playing? It has a history of changing sides when it can see the way things are going.

[papa smurf]

Nice to see project fear is being rehashed,i'm 52% certain we are still leaving.

[Sephiroth]

Andrew had to stoop to the Sun for his tale of woe.

[Pierre]

The Sun has seen the doomsday classified document designed to kickstart ministers into a major planning operation to see off disaster. It reveals:

- One in 20 Town Halls could go bust in a second Covid wave, sparking social care chaos.
- The economic impact of the virus and Brexit could cause public disorder, shortages and price hikes.
- Troops may have to be drafted on to the streets to help the police in the worst-case scenario — 1,500 are already on stand by.
- Social distancing measures and masks will have to continue until 2021 regardless.
- Supplies of food and fuel are all under threat this Christmas if Dover becomes blocked.
- Downing Street is pushing hard for a trade deal but is making contingency plans for an “unruly” exit from the EU transition period at the end of December.

With trade talks looking set to go the wire, there is a risk they collapse — putting up trade barriers overnight on 1 January.

In that scenario planners believe France will force “mandatory controls on UK goods from day one” and between 40 and 70 per cent of hauliers travelling across the Channel may not be ready for this.

That could see flow between Dover and Calais down 45 per cent for three months, triggering long queues of HGVs in Kent.

The outlook is also bleak for Gibraltar and the Channel Islands, both reliant on imports.
Gibraltar could be cut off from Spain and economically crippled and the Channel Islands may need airdrops of medicines and food.

So from all of that there are two lines of information that are not just speculation.

I think I’ll still sleep easy tonight.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

The Sun changed its tune, wonder what game it is playing? It has a history of changing sides when it can see the way things are going.

You're right, The Sun will jump ship if sees it's heading towards an iceberg as it will only lose readers if it doesn't.

This could though be a deliberate leak to prepare the public for the worst.

No wonder the Government's faffed around with the exams situation; its capacity has been consumed with this horror show.

To me this all goes back to Boris chosing loyalty over ability.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Andrew had to stoop to the Sun for his tale of woe.

I think you meant scoop and not stoop. Credit where it's due - it is indeed a big scoop for the paper, and it's setting the news agenda.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Andrew had to stoop to the Sun for his tale of woe.

You want to have looked at the Mail lately that great bastion of Middle England sentiment.