UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Is Brexit still going on? Well there's a surprise. Thought it was all straightforward, and deals with other countries easy peasy. Even the Brexiteers are now dissing the deal they all voted for. Reality is a cruel mistress.

Don't count me in that statement Mr K, I got what I wanted 100% - out of the EU

It also doesn't bother me one little bit if we don't get any deals with them, I'll live with that. What others want, whether remain or leave, is not my concern as it's out of my hands

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Carth

Don't count me in that statement Mr K, I got what I wanted 100% - out of the EU

It also doesn't bother me one little bit if we don't get any deals with them, I'll live with that. What others want, whether remain or leave, is not my concern as it's out of my hands

And here in lies one of the biggest problems we face in a modern society 'I' instead of 'we'

Wishful thinking i guess.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

And here in lies one of the biggest problems we face in a modern society 'I' instead of 'we'

Wishful thinking i guess.

52% of "Is" plus the GE result make up one big "we".

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

52% of "Is" plus the GE result make up one big "we".

You normally multiply fractions don't you?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Frankly, I think IDS should do one. The financial terms as I understand them seem perfectly reasonable to me.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...al-settlement/

I genuinely don't get IDS's motives here. Nothing is going unexpectedly with the Withdrawal Agreement from the Conservative Party's point of view.
Is he trying to undermine BoJo? is he ok?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

You normally multiply fractions don't you?

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
52% of "Is" plus the GE result make up one big "we".

The clue is in the word "plus". I suppose to satisfy pedantry, I could have said "52% of 'Is' plus the excess arising out of the GE make up one big 'we'.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

And here in lies one of the biggest problems we face in a modern society 'I' instead of 'we'

Wishful thinking i guess.

oh, and what do you suggest I (as in me myself) do to facilitate a deal with the EU, you know, as I'm just an ordinary commoner and not part of the negotiating team

I guess I could place adverts in every national & local newspaper, asking people to contact me stating what everyone wants from a deal . . and then post the most favoured outcome to the EU, telling them this is what we want or else bye bye

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

52% of "Is" plus the GE result make up one big "we".

I'll give you it's a 'we' but in return would you concede that to a degree it's a 'fragmented we'

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I'll give you it's a 'we' but in return would you concede that to a degree it's a 'fragmented we'

Don't need to concede. Almost by definition it's fragmented.

The key is that democracy as a concept wasn't fragmented. The majority holds.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Don't need to concede. Almost by definition it's fragmented.

The key is that democracy as a concept wasn't fragmented. The majority holds.

Quite, and just look at the crap storm it causes

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Quite, and just look at the crap storm it causes

I think the crap storm is down to the unreasonableness of those among the 48% who only like one-sided democracy.

Criticism from that quarter of the Guvmin's handling of Brexit is to be expected - but the "I told you so" brigade and the whingers are, in some cases, well beyond the pale. I can think of one stand out in this thread (and it's not Mr. K!).

[ianch99]

[1andrew1]

Just for the record, I don't count myself as a whinger though I'm sure other may enjoy applying that label.

I accepted the result of the vote in 2016 but that doesn't mean that I forfeit my right to call elected representatives out and highlight the consequences.

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Just for the record, I don't count myself as a whinger though I'm sure other may enjoy applying that label.

I accepted the result of the vote in 2016 but that doesn't mean that I forfeit my right to call elected representatives out and highlight the consequences.

exactly we fully accept result and we leave fully 1st January but doesn't mean we can't point out the lies and the consequences when they said there would be none

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Just for the record, I don't count myself as a whinger though I'm sure other may enjoy applying that label.

I accepted the result of the vote in 2016 but that doesn't mean that I forfeit my right to call elected representatives out and highlight the consequences.

I'll hold my hands up and admit that up until recently, I didn't want to accept the result of the vote.

Now, if i'm being 100% honest whilst of course I'd like to see the UK succeed, there's a part of me that hopes that IF this goes horribly wrong that certain factions of society suffer and suffer greatly. (By this i don't mean people of the ilk such as the majority of CF Brexiteers who are capable of constructing a reasonable & logical argument)

I've moved on.This pandemic has and is doing it's worst to our economy and lives. What emerges of our economy afterwards will hopefully be robust enough to deal with whatever deal we get when leaving.Or don't depending if we crash out. It is what it is.