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Old 12-03-2019, 18:53   #8416
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Rumor is David Davies might vote for the deal. The defeat might not be as bad as expected? If most of the Tories are united then May could call an election with 'Labour blocking Brexit'....
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Old 12-03-2019, 18:58   #8417
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That worked so well last time she tried that...
Yep 20 plus points ahead in the opinion polls heading for a big landslide but of course it never turns out that way as you can go back to Winston Churchill who was extremely popular as a war leader yet was voted out of office come General election time.
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Why? We would be the ones without any trade deals and a pressing need to secure one. The EU literally signed a trade deal with Japan the other month, an economy bigger than ours.
The EU is also agreeing a free trade deal with Vietnam, so how is size of economy relevant?
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When Jeremy was popular. Look at him now.
Actually if my memory serves me right he was very unpopular then as there was a huge media onslaught right up to the general election on him where of course the general election result never worked out as many thought it would.
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mp's voting now
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Old 12-03-2019, 19:03   #8421
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The EU is also agreeing a free trade deal with Vietnam, so how is size of economy relevant?


How is the size of the economy not relevant in a trade deal?
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sky just said David Davis voted for deal



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Ayes (for the deal)242

Noes (against the deal) 391
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Re: Brexit

Vote on May's deal

242 Ayes 391 Noes

The noes have it.
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Theresa May defeated by 149 votes.
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vote tomorrow for no deal
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If no deal loses, vote for extension on Thursday
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Re: Brexit

What's to stop the EU from exercising what would be a masterstoke for them- Refuse to grant an extension.
Parliament would then be forced to revoke A50 as a no deal brexit option will be removed tomorrow........

Maybe that was Mrs May's plan all along.
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I have no patience for the ERG at all. Cowards.

The truth is any deal will require concessions and pain. They went though the referendum and spend the last three years since talking up a Brexit that was never on the table. German car manufactures will force a great deal for us, we have all the cards, we'll replicate the trade deals the EU has easily and we'll have more money from day one.

They were never going to vote for any deal because they don't want to get their hands dirty. I think secretly they want this deal to pass but they wanted it to pass without their votes so they can cry treachery and claim their utopia was thwarted by Parliament.

They would rather risk their entire project than have to have any responsibility for it. If Brexit doesn't happen then Leavers can they can blame Remainers but they can also blame each ERG member who, when it was within their grasp, voted No.
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