01-06-2008, 22:01
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#7801
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Inactive
Join Date: Feb 2004
Services: Finding people (retired)
Posts: 1,065
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
How many shares do you need to get into the AGM/ask awkward questions, and how much are they?
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01-06-2008, 22:25
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#7802
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 231
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by NTLVictim
How many shares do you need to get into the AGM/ask awkward questions, and how much are they?
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I believe it`s 1
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01-06-2008, 23:35
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#7803
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 114
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by NTLVictim
How many shares do you need to get into the AGM/ask awkward questions, and how much are they?
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Closed at £2.22 each on Friday.
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=bt&m=L&d=
---------- Post added at 23:35 ---------- Previous post was at 22:34 ----------
Here's my eight pennyworth for the ICO, submitted via their feedback form this evening.
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Following the ICO decision not to pursue the issue of the BT Phorm trials in 2006 and 2007, I have eight questions:
1. Did you see and review the legal advice BT received before the Phorm trials in 2006 and 2007? Which counsel provided it?
2. Why do you accept BT's assurances that no personally identifiable information was processed, stored or disclosed during either trial when the whole point of Phorm/ Webwise is to do just that?
3. The data in the BT trials was processed at sysip.net, a domain operated outside the BT network by 121media, whose products were categorised as malware by reputable anti-virus companies. On what basis do you think privacy was not at risk?
4. You say you do not propose to pursue this issue further with BT because they were unable to provide clear advice to their customers and the trial was technical in nature. Does that mean that any ISP, telecoms provider or postal service will be allowed to carry out a similar scheme if its operation is equally opaque?
5. You say you do not propose to pursue this issue further with BT because the 2007 trial was small scale. Did BT tell you the exact number of users affected? How big does the level of interception have to be before you will take action?
6. Did you review the process used by BT to handle complaints about Phorm trials in 2006 and 2007 at the time they were taking place?
7. While BT claimed they could not contact one of the complainants, the complainant says that BT logged support, abuse, and customer service records in his name and was always available to be contacted. Who do you believe?
8. Why are you recommending that losses incurred by users of BT services be recovered through civil court processes when the criminal law has so clearly been broken?
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I should have the revised version of inphormationdesk live tomorrow evening.
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01-06-2008, 23:39
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#7804
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Services: Virgin - BB,TV,Phone
Sky box - with no sub
Freeview - idtv
Posts: 270
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Hmm...
thought I might ask some awkward questions of my own but the ICO website seems to be misbehaving...
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01-06-2008, 23:58
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#7805
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cf.addict
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 337
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by icsys
Hmm...
thought I might ask some awkward questions of my own but the ICO website seems to be misbehaving...
Runtime Error
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Perhaps the Phorm/Webwise servers are down there also (Who knows what side they are on?)
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02-06-2008, 00:18
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#7806
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Guest
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by icsys
Hmm...
thought I might ask some awkward questions of my own but the ICO website seems to be misbehaving...
Runtime Error
Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine.
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Ok, who hacked it?
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02-06-2008, 01:06
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#7807
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cf.addict
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 133
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by serial
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Truely scary!!! I watched 2hrs worth of George Orwells worst predictions presented by Steven Rambam a private investigator that uses these Orwellian databases to track and profile people.
Will people wake up and pay attention to this nightmare? No they won't not until it's too late, then they will have to resign themselves to virtual slavery. If you think it's OTT now for someone to get a criminal record and have his DNA extracted for leaving his dustbin open a few inches (nowadays) just wait and see what is going to pass for normal in another 10yrs time.
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02-06-2008, 01:29
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#7808
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cf.member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 98
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by BadPhormula
Truely scary!!! I watched 2hrs worth of George Orwells worst predictions presented by Steven Rambam a private investigator that uses these Orwellian databases to track and profile people.
Will people wake up and pay attention to this nightmare? No they won't not until it's too late, then they will have to resign themselves to virtual slavery. If you think it's OTT now for someone to get a criminal record and have his DNA extracted for leaving his dustbin open a few inches (nowadays) just wait and see what is going to pass for normal in another 10yrs time.
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I just watched the 1st hour. I feel you are dead right about the apathy of people leading to their virtual slavery. The apathetic response of many people both on and offline to the dpi for profit issue has made me dispair at times.
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02-06-2008, 02:27
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#7809
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Inactive
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Middlesbrough
Age: 61
Services: Cable Modem 60MB
2 TiVo Box's one, 1TB the other 500GB
Plus Phone from NTL
Posts: 375
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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Originally Posted by serial
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That is truely scary.
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02-06-2008, 02:48
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#7810
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Inactive
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 231
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
you know what they keep on saying if you got nothing to hide why worry about it all, who every came up with that spin needs to wake up cos now its spread about and taken as the norm it`s already to late.
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02-06-2008, 08:53
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#7811
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Reading Berks
Services: BT Broadband
BT Vision
Sky
Posts: 104
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Don't know for certain if I can make the AGM but have secured two proxy votes from mum and partner how will the inside demonstration take form nice to let the shareholders know that we mean business and the voice should also be heard inside the AGM ,perhaps they will employ the mods as bouncers they are best at stopping anti BT comments and criticism.Whats the chances of being thrown off the forum and out of the AGM in the same season. ROFLOL
TGLS
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02-06-2008, 08:56
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#7812
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cf.addict
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Brighton
Posts: 450
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
Just come across this, i find this far worse
http://stopvirgin.movielol.org/
Just looked at that video.
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02-06-2008, 09:29
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#7813
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Permanently Banned
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 121
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
I am all for girls with nice cleavage helping us out, where can we get one ??
Am I missing somthing.....
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02-06-2008, 09:53
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#7814
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Inactive
Join Date: Jun 2003
Services: The wonders of Sky TV BT line and Aquiss.net ADSL cable dies on 5th RIP VM.
Posts: 4,004
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
How could I miss this the second highlight of the week adn I was in Wales on a peace battery recharge session...
http://service-update.theplanet.com/
See BT shares have been going down since the storm over phorm.
http://miranda.hemscott.com/ir/bt/ts...t-6M-T-T-F.png
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02-06-2008, 10:39
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#7815
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Inactive
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bristol
Services: Aquiss.net and loving it.
No more Virgin Media, no more Virgin Phone, no more Virgin Mobile.
Posts: 629
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Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
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