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Old 11-09-2019, 05:36   #2176
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Re: PM Boris forms a government

The latest polling intention released last night.

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Westminster voting intention:

CON: 30% (-1)
LAB: 29% (+2)
LDEM: 17% (-3)
BREX: 13% (-)
GRN: 4% (+1)

via ComRes, 06 - 08 Sep
The tracker poll of polls puts the Conservatives 9 points ahead.

http://britainelects.com/polling/westminster/
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Old 11-09-2019, 10:10   #2177
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Parliament suspension ruled 'unlawful'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

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Boris Johnson’s suspension of UK Parliament is unlawful, judges at Scotland’s highest civil court rule
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Re: PM Boris forms a government

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Staying in will be a democratic disaster for our politics and governance which is worse than the short term challenges that no-deal exit must bring.

Boris, not known nor revered for his honesty, does at least understand what I’m saying.

Btw, I like the letter in today’s Tory graph that suggests he adds a letter to accompany the letter drafted by Labour to say that he, the UK PM did not write the other letter and it is not the UK guvmin’s policy. Cat, pigeons and indignation’s will follow. Can’t wait.
But the challenge for others is the Brexit solution for going forward is "things will be better" - high on emotion, low on detail.

The last 3 years have shown that we’re not very good at negotiating (and you can’t just blame the EU for being "obstructive" or "perfidious", because if you don’t understand/agree that other major countries will be equally, if nor more, "tough" in negotiating, I’ve got a bridge you can buy...).

I don’t live my life hoping "something magic" will make my life better, but that appears to be our Government’s current approach.

YMMV

Re your 2nd letter comment

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/br...johnson-video/
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Lord Sumption. who retired from the 12-judge Supreme Court in 2018, strongly rejected the idea, saying it would be in breach of the law.

Asked if such a move would be legal, he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “No, of course it wouldn’t. The Bill, or Act as it’s about to become, says that he’s got to apply for an extension. Not only has he got to send the letter, he’s got to apply for an extension.

“To send the letter and then try to neutralise it seems to me, plainly, is a breach of the Act. What you’ve got to realise is the courts are not very fond of loopholes.”

If Mr Johnson refused to hand over the letter Lord Sumption said: “He would be in contempt of court.

“He would I suspect have to put up with the resignation of the Justice Secretary and Attorney General and probably other members of his Cabinet.”

He also added that: “There are plenty of ways in which this kind of obligation can be enforced.”
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Parliament suspension ruled 'unlawful'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855
Suppose it will have to go to a proper court now and waste more money.
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Suppose it will have to go to a proper court now and waste more money.
There will be an appeal on Tuesday.
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Nigel Farage offers Boris Johnson no-deal Brexit election pact.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ggression-pact

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The Brexit party leader urged the prime minister to strike an agreement to stand jointly in favour of no deal, at a time of increasing speculation that Johnson is revisiting ways of making a version of Theresa May’s withdrawal agreement work.
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A No 10 spokesman said Johnson rejected the idea of an alliance with Farage, saying he “has been clear – no pact”.
Personally l cannot see this happening.
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Old 11-09-2019, 12:13   #2182
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Suppose it will have to go to a proper court now and waste more money.
Since when have remainers been worried about wasting money? It helps their negative "cost of Brexit" balance sheet.
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Since when have remainers been worried about wasting money? It helps their negative "cost of Brexit" balance sheet.
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£100 million "Get Ready for Brexit" information campaign
£400 million spent on Brexit preparations 17/18
£900 million spent on Brexit preparations 18/19
total cost so far £2 billion
additional cost budgeted of £4.2 billion

Total HMG available for Brexit £6.3 billion
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Annual payment to the EU roughly £9 billion
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I miss when the country was divided over if smoking in pubs should be banned or not
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I miss when the country was divided over if smoking in pubs should be banned or not
yeah, another total screw up leading to job losses . .
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yeah, another total screw up leading to job losses . .
But far more important is far less people are dying of cancer don't you agree...
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But far more important is far less people are dying of cancer don't you agree...
Are you sure about that?
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But far more important is far less people are dying of cancer don't you agree...
Why,the non-smokers didn't suddenly rush to become pub customers and public houses started closing in droves as smokers stayed at home and bought their drink from supermarkets.

I do agree that some pubs should have been allowed to declare a no -smoking policy but to force it on all...
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. . . as smokers stayed at home and bought their drink from supermarkets.
Yep, stayed at home drinking and smoking in front of their kids . . well thought out policy wasn't it.

Oh, and improved (legislated) ventilation in separate rooms would have been enough to allow smoking in some places . . with of course the obligatory warning signs for those who were too thick to understand the difference between smoking and non smoking areas
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