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Old 09-09-2019, 19:10   #16
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Re: Robert Mugabe dead

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Nah. "Diabolos" is not a deity. I believe from my lesson, a wannabe.

Somewhat like Mugabe, one suspects.

Correct, but you werenít asking about the devil, you were inching towards a discussion about what qualifies any particular person for hell (or, eternal separation from the presence of God, which is slightly less specific but more in tune with Christian theology at least). As is fairly typical of such a discussion when held outside of a theology seminar, it immediately veers to extremes (Hitler, Stalin, and, yes, Mugabe) and focuses on the scale of the bad deeds done by such individuals. This, however, is to completely misunderstand the Christian theological position on issues including Divine grace, love, justice and final judgment.

As I said, weíre heading into territory we used to cover frequently on this forum but havenít for some time. Iím up for it (as Iím a third year theology student now, so I ought to be) but we could get far, far off topic very quickly.
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Old 09-09-2019, 19:17   #17
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Re: Robert Mugabe dead

As I'm correct - there's no need for me to argue!

But, of course, Mugabe being dead (topic), he certainly isn't in heaven and I, for one, wish him hell.

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Old 09-09-2019, 19:31   #18
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As I'm correct - there's no need for me to argue!

But, of course, Mugabe being dead (topic), he certainly isn't in heaven and I, for one, wish him hell.

Based on my understanding of Christian theology, and what I know of his life and philosophy, I donít believe he is standing in the presence of Godís glory. Yet, as with tweetiepooh, as a Christian I acknowledge that itís not my place to wish eternal separation from God (what is loosely and not always correctly called ďHellĒ) on anyone.
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Jesus talked more about Hell than He did about Heaven. As Heaven is eternal blessing, Hell is eternal punishment. Hell is so horrible that I would wish that no-one went. God desires the same so has made a way to be with Him.

This could get quite fun but is this the tread for it?
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Re: Robert Mugabe dead

Mugabe is the epitome of absolute power corrupts absolutely. He started off with the best of intentions but eventually the need for power overcame any good sense he had.
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Jesus talked more about Hell than He did about Heaven. As Heaven is eternal blessing, Hell is eternal punishment. Hell is so horrible that I would wish that no-one went. God desires the same so has made a way to be with Him.

This could get quite fun but is this the tread for it?
Not really, tweetie, because this thread is about a real event rather than a belief.
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Re: Robert Mugabe dead

Should have buried him at sea... SHARK BATE.
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Poor sharks!
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