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Old 06-08-2022, 17:49   #1876
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

You forgot to mention you use a VPN as well, at least to access this site.

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or inappropriate people like Putins family from posting things.
Interesting remark .... why are Putins family 'inappropriate people' ?
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Old 06-08-2022, 21:19   #1877
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You forgot to mention you use a VPN as well, at least to access this site.

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Interesting remark .... why are Putins family 'inappropriate people' ?
True. Since the investigatory powers law came in to effect which gives everyone down to the Food Standards Agency and Ambulance service access to your internet connection records (ICR) for the last two years, not just the police, I think everyone should use a VPN to regain some privacy.

How most people use them they can still be used for correlation as John Doe posted x on site y with IP z and the police can see that suspect A connected to that VPN IP from their ICR at the time the offence happened.

The people who say stupid things online are the kind of people who will make lots of stupid mistakes where a VPN won't really help them in the long run.

If you have access to a lot of breaches that have emails/passwords/IP addresses etc, its trivial to find peoples other usernames and emails in some cases. Finding someones main email account if they are using a throwaway account for something nefarious can be easy if they use the same unique password on both for example. The police do use some of these same datasets and know these tricks.

Requiring real names to login will be a nightmare. Its bad enough many social media accounts try to link you to a phone number too.

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Researchers immediately tied the post to a vulnerability in Twitter’s platform that was discovered in January by a security researcher who reported the issue through HackerOne, which operates a bug bounty platform used by Twitter.

Twitter added that it is “particularly mindful of people with pseudonymous accounts who can be targeted by state or other actors.”
Plenty of reasons not to add more personal details online.

As much as I hate it, I have to run an instance of whatsapp. Its amazing how many messages I get from people I have messaged on there who said they tried calling me on my whatsapp number but it doesn't work. It doesnt work because its not my number. If I wanted them to call or speak to me directly I would have given them my actual number. People assume its ok to call because they have access to that information compared to say Telegram which works by a username.

So registering stuff with different phone and throwaway sims, knowing it has a life expectancy before the number will be re-used and no longer secure is already done by some who value their privacy and want to stop leaking more information than they already do.

Stuff is limited enough as it is and its not easy to juggle different accounts with different numbers, while hiding metadata. But those say know how to root their phone and use something like xposed to lie to apps like whatsapp about phone names/models/MAC addresses and other identifying details are going to keep trolling no matter what new laws come out in a country that might or might not be the one they are actually in.

Some people hack everything they come across, because it often takes minutes and they can. Some for fun, some for profit. They are harder to catch and prove but the police would have more resources to do so if they wasn't dealing with someone who got hurt by something someone said on the internet. It will get worse with new troll laws where they will have to investigate more. All the time the actual criminals are robbing your banks laughing that the police dont have the resources to catch them.

The technical details of how things work are often overlooked because politicians don't understand them. Our cookies law means we are constantly having to consent or reject cookies on site prompts. Every time you visit the site if you are someone who cleans cookies after every browsing session. They didn't think of that when introducing that. The same with the stupid credit card and photo ID for accessing porn sites. Unworkable/will lead to more details compromised and kids will still be accessing porn because they will work out the ways around it.

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Old 08-08-2022, 12:30   #1878
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

Troll who made persistent rude & nasty posts found guilty of stalking:

https://www.nme.com/news/music/ex-bb...asters-3285205
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Old 08-08-2022, 13:59   #1879
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

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Troll who made persistent rude & nasty posts found guilty of stalking:

https://www.nme.com/news/music/ex-bb...asters-3285205
While troll was used to describe him by Vine, he was stalking and harassing people. Is the trolling label really needed?

Also worth noting that existing laws dealt with this and he was removed from social media platforms multiple times so they were dealing with him too.

The police should, and did, deal with this for the laws he broke which is their job as it was proper harassment.

Trolling and name calling is different. If trolling gets to the point of harassment, it gets dealt with once reported.
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Old 08-08-2022, 14:04   #1880
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Troll who made persistent rude & nasty posts found guilty of stalking:
Yes, all without the need for new, draconian, badly thought out, laws.
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Old 10-08-2022, 16:39   #1881
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

'Non-crime hate incidents taking up too much of police's time'..

A common sense approach.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/d...idents-9197202
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Old 10-08-2022, 16:45   #1882
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'Non-crime hate incidents taking up too much of police's time'..

A common sense approach.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/d...idents-9197202
Agreed. If the police believe no crime has been committed, they should simply walk away.

People are crying out for the police to catch criminals, not involve themselves with the ‘right to be offended’ brigade.
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Old 10-08-2022, 18:41   #1883
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'Non-crime hate incidents taking up too much of police's time'..

A common sense approach.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/d...idents-9197202
It took them being sued to realise this though it seems. About 10 years too late but better than never. They should never have started on that track to begin with
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Old 26-08-2022, 22:03   #1884
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Yes, all without the need for new, draconian, badly thought out, laws.
The existing legislation is too laborious and time consuming. The cost also prevents some people from excercising their legal rights too.

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You forgot to mention you use a VPN as well, at least to access this site.

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Interesting remark .... why are Putins family 'inappropriate people' ?
I took it to mean that he assumes that his family will most likely share his views and will certainly do so in public, essentially becoming his mouthpiece.

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On a lighter note, a woman on Facebook has criticised them over a warning that she received for bullying.

She called herself a silly bugger after making a bad choice about something. She assumed that the warning was a result of software being used to check posts, so appealed thinking that a real moderater would quickly sort it out.

The warning was not overturned on appeal, so she's effectively been told off for trolling herself

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Old 27-08-2022, 01:15   #1885
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The existing legislation is too laborious and time consuming. The cost also prevents some people from excercising their legal rights too.
Neither of those is a reason to write new laws.
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Neither of those is a reason to write new laws.
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Re: Police to get tough on internet trolls.

We're just wasting our time countering one persons views. Doesn't matter how much everyone ends up disagreeing with him it won't change his mind in the slightest.
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Has this thread not died yet
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That won’t be allowed to happen
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