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Old 09-05-2012, 16:57   #76
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

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The British ones won't be deported but the Afghan one is .

IIRC if you become a British citizen this can be revoked, and if it is the case here, then as I said should be.
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No, I haven't and that allows me to think about it more rationally.

These girls weren't "raped". They weren't forced to have sex. They could have stopped any time they wanted by just not visiting the men anymore.

So what exactly was the terrible crime committed here?
My partner was raped as a child so if you think that is funny or something to get your bigot views across you are sadly mistaken.

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No, I haven't and that allows me to think about it more rationally.

These girls weren't "raped". They weren't forced to have sex. They could have stopped any time they wanted by just not visiting the men anymore.

So what exactly was the terrible crime committed here?
I cannot believe you said that. They could have been forced by threats or anything. Whose side are you on?
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No, I haven't and that allows me to think about it more rationally.

These girls weren't "raped". They weren't forced to have sex. They could have stopped any time they wanted by just not visiting the men anymore.

So what exactly was the terrible crime committed here?
Well, at least two of the suspects were convicted for rape. Then there's sexual assault, trafficking for sexual exploitation, trafficking of a child for sexual exploitation, and sexual activity with a child under 16. Pretty serious offences in my book.

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Kabeer Hassan, 25, of Lacrosse Avenue, Oldham, was sentenced to nine years for rape and three years, concurrently, for the conspiracy conviction.
Abdul Aziz, 41, of Armstrong Hurst Close, Rochdale, also convicted of trafficking for sexual exploitation, received a nine year sentence.
Abdul Rauf, 43, of Darley Road and Adil Khan, 42, of Oswald Street, both of Rochdale and also convicted of trafficking a child within the UK for sexual exploitation, received six and eight years respectively.
Mohammed Sajid, 35, of Jephys Street, Rochdale, also convicted of one count of rape, sexual activity with a girl under 16 and trafficking for sexual exploitation, was jailed for 12 years.
Mohammed Amin, 45, of Falinge Road, Falinge, also convicted of sexual assault, received a five-year jail term.
Hamid Safi, 22, of Tweedale Street, Rochdale, also convicted of trafficking girls for the purposes of sexual exploitation, has been sentenced to four years.
Abdul Qayyum, 44, of Ramsay Street, Rochdale, was jailed for five years. He will be deported to Afghanistan at the end of his sentence
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I cannot believe you said that. They could have been forced by threats or anything. Whose side are you on?
If there was any good evidence for that the men would've been tried for rape. Let's be rational here.
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If there was any good evidence for that the men would've been tried for rape. Let's be rational here.
Ahem. Three (two as per above, as well as the ringleader) of the men were convicted of rape.
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If there was any good evidence for that the men would've been tried for rape. Let's be rational here.
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If there was any good evidence for that the men would've been tried for rape. Let's be rational here.
We are being perfectly rational here as in my mind any humans with a ounce of humanity would be totally disgusted and sickened by these wicked evil crimes.
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Well, at least two of the suspects were convicted for rape. Then there's sexual assault, trafficking for sexual exploitation, trafficking of a child for sexual exploitation, and sexual activity with a child under 16. Pretty serious offences in my book.
Only two of them and they were probably just technical "rapes" like having sex with someone when they're drunk.
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Only two of them and they were probably just technical "rapes" like having sex with someone when they're drunk.
Three actually, and if you think having sex with someone who is so drunk that she's vomiting over the side of the bed isn't rape you need to have your head examined. Also, I don't think 'trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation' is quite on a par with shop lifting.
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Three actually, and if you think having sex with someone who is so drunk that she's vomiting over the side of the bed isn't rape you need to have your head examined. Also, I don't think 'trafficking for the purpose of sexual exploitation' is quite on a par with shop lifting.


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Ignore,ignore,ignore,ignore everyone please.Do not feed the Bridge dweller.
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No, I haven't and that allows me to think about it more rationally.

These girls weren't "raped". They weren't forced to have sex. They could have stopped any time they wanted by just not visiting the men anymore.

So what exactly was the terrible crime committed here?
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16224681

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Some of the victims told the jury that they were threatened with violence if they did not submit to their demands.
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The judge also said: "In some cases those girls were raped callously, viciously and violently."
Yep sounds like they could have walked away at any time .You may want to try reading about the case before commenting further .One girl tried to tell her social service carer but was ignored.

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