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Old 15-11-2022, 20:38   #2101
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

Important to note that the missile killed two people in Poland.
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Old 15-11-2022, 20:49   #2102
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I don't think they'll invoke Article 5. At the very least there will be pressure from the rest of NATO not to invoke it over this. It's too much of an escalation to collectively take military action against Russia over two wayward missiles. There would have to be evidence of obvious intent.
They’ll invoke article 4, and do nothing.
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Old 15-11-2022, 20:55   #2103
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

BREAKING: NATO now actively investigating reports of explosion in Poland, near Ukrainian border.
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Old 15-11-2022, 21:09   #2104
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

It is time to give the Ukrainians the weapons with the range to hit back at Russian infrastructure.
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Old 15-11-2022, 21:40   #2105
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BREAKING: Polish Government raising readiness of military units following reports of missile strikes close to Ukrainian border, Russia denies responsibility.
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Old 15-11-2022, 21:40   #2106
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

If it does turn out to be an attempt from Ukraine to force escalation they should be sanctioned and support withdrawn.

I do not support Russia's invasion but I also do not trust Zelenskyy
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If it does turn out to be an attempt from Ukraine to force escalation they should be sanctioned and support withdrawn.
No one is saying that. The Ukraine theory is that some of their anti-missle weaponry landed in Poland after incepting a Russian missile.
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Old 15-11-2022, 21:42   #2108
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No one is saying that. The Ukraine theory is that some of their anti-missle weaponry landed in Poland after incepting a Russian missile.
I am saying it
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If it does turn out to be an attempt from Ukraine to force escalation they should be sanctioned and support withdrawn.
Been watching RT again? More likely a Russian mistake, or a Ukranian missile trying to shoot down a Russian missile. Either way, Russia is responsible.
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Been watching RT again? More likely a Russian mistake, or a Ukranian missile trying to shoot down a Russian missile. Either way, Russia is responsible.
What's RT? clearly the answer is no
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You think Ukraine has decided the best approach now is to fire a missle at a NATO country?
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You think Ukraine has decided the best approach now is to fire a missle at a NATO country?
They are getting the living crap bombed out of them at the moment so I personally would not put anything past them.

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Old 15-11-2022, 22:09   #2113
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They are getting the living crap bombed out of them at the moment so I personally would not put anything past them.

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Poland's an important ally of Ukraine. Such action would make no sense whatsover. Ukraine's plan is to regain its territory and it's been doing so quite effectively.
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No one is saying that. The Ukraine theory is that some of their anti-missle weaponry landed in Poland after incepting a Russian missile.
At least then we go down the collateral damage route.
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At least then we go down the collateral damage route.
If it turns out it was an incepted missile things will calm down. No blame will be placed on Ukraine because they have the right to defend themselves and it's just unfortunate some remains landed in Poland, people will be angry at Russia but it won't be an attack on a NATO country.
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