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I won't be watching it, there are too many shows on the go already. I am already mardy because I have just realised that Crisis On Infinite Earths is a flipping 5 series crossover event. I don't watch Batwoman I refuse to watch LoT. I does make me ponder the merits of these crossovers because how many people watch all the series involved. They would have been better off keeping it to the main 3 and just including the core characters from the other series to support.
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I won't be watching it, there are too many shows on the go already. I am already mardy because I have just realised that Crisis On Infinite Earths is a flipping 5 series crossover event. I don't watch Batwoman I refuse to watch LoT. I does make me ponder the merits of these crossovers because how many people watch all the series involved. They would have been better off keeping it to the main 3 and just including the core characters from the other series to support.
The crossovers have become an end in themselves. Seeing how big they can make them is the aim, with precious little attention to good storytelling.
I have a Supergirl season 1-3 blu-ray box set that includes the complete Crisis on Earth X crossover, and a documentary which is basically just a chat on the sofa between the main showrunners from the series' that contributed to it, sitting there patting each other on the back for how clever they are.
As a family we skipped over the crossover episodes when we reach them, unless they're the simple, early ones with just Supergirl/Flash (youngest loves Barry). Earth X is just a mess. I eventually sat down and watched it all when I had the house to myself. There's about 3 hours I'll never get back.
The crossovers have become an end in themselves. Seeing how big they can make them is the aim, with precious little attention to good storytelling.
I have a Supergirl season 1-3 blu-ray box set that includes the complete Crisis on Earth X crossover, and a documentary which is basically just a chat on the sofa between the main showrunners from the series' that contributed to it, sitting there patting each other on the back for how clever they are.
As a family we skipped over the crossover episodes when we reach them, unless they're the simple, early ones with just Supergirl/Flash (youngest loves Barry). Earth X is just a mess. I eventually sat down and watched it all when I had the house to myself. There's about 3 hours I'll never get back.
that's my point, it is more of a showing off exercise of getting everyone together than doing anything substantive. It is very much a case of more is less and a process of moving Supergirl, Arrow and Flash between the series' cast episodes and the weak stories are designed to fit around the characters rather than them coming up with a good story and making the characters work around it (if that makes sense). In stuff like the MCU you look forward to them all getting together but in the DC series I a actually think the individual episodes/series are significantly better than what they attempt in the crossovers.
I have only seen episode one so far and to be fair it is the best crossover I have seen (in DC) because they have had a proper build up and depth to it but it is still ruined because I won't be watching LoT.
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The Marvel Netflix shows were quite good at it. There were plenty of crossovers but they were very understated and always served the plot. Obviously the big-screen MCU stuff has been working to a master plan for decades now so again, characters pop up in each other’s franchises whenever it drives the story arc forwards. The DC TV stuff really is a case of the production teams sitting down and challenging themselves to see how supersized they can go this year.
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LoT has changed a lot since it started. Big cast changes and also story changes. I think it's so much better now.
Crisis on Infinite Earths was such a big story that they had to involve all the shows and even shows that aren't strictly part of the DCTV Arrowverse.
TBH I think you’ve got that back to front. They wanted to involve all the shows, plus as many secondary characters as possible, and therefore the story had to be big enough to accommodate them.
It's on my to do list. I might try and watch it tonight with The Snowpiercer. I watched season 1 of Black Lightning and gave up a few eps into season 2. Let's hope this is better.
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It's on my to do list. I might try and watch it tonight with The Snowpiercer. I watched season 1 of Black Lightning and gave up a few eps into season 2. Let's hope this is better.
I stuck with Black Lightning S2 and thought it improved as it went along. However I'm now working my way through S3 on Netflix and it's pretty dire. It has vanished far, far up its own ar$e.