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epsilon · 18-10-2022, 06:54

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Originally Posted by vincerooney

Seems daft for CNN not to come back to sky or virgin now. They've taken huge steps back over the last 2 years.

No doubt they thought that viewers would be attracted to subscribe to their, short lived, streaming app. Burning a few bridges and their income stream from Virgin in the process. FTA satellite was possibly retained to make sure that CNN remained available in hotel rooms. Negotiations for the return of a relatively minor channel may not be as easy as pulling the plug.

Cobalt · 18-10-2022, 12:43

The Warner/Discovery merger messed everything up. HBO programming gutted, Cartoon Network dead, CNN+ unexpectedly getting the axe under new management etc. It's a victim of a larger problem at the top.

epsilon · 18-10-2022, 15:34

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Originally Posted by Cobalt

The Warner/Discovery merger messed everything up. HBO programming gutted, Cartoon Network dead, CNN+ unexpectedly getting the axe under new management etc. It's a victim of a larger problem at the top.

The changes were too close to the merger date and probably should have been postponed as they really don't seem to have been agreed beforehand.

Rillington · 18-10-2022, 17:15

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Originally Posted by epsilon

No doubt they thought that viewers would be attracted to subscribe to their, short lived, streaming app. Burning a few bridges and their income stream from Virgin in the process. FTA satellite was possibly retained to make sure that CNN remained available in hotel rooms. Negotiations for the return of a relatively minor channel may not be as easy as pulling the plug.

Did CNN pay to be on Virgin Media's platform?

As you say, i think the reason for it disappearing off non-pay platforms was due to the launch of their streaming app.

epsilon · 19-10-2022, 07:34

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Originally Posted by Rillington

Did CNN pay to be on Virgin Media's platform?

As you say, i think the reason for it disappearing off non-pay platforms was due to the launch of their streaming app.

It depends on the contract. In theory, there are 2 elements, carriage costs (payable by the broadcaster) and revenue share (the share of subscription income paid to the broadcaster by Virgin & dependant on the subscription tier). These can be offset in the contract so that there is only a payment in one direction. I wouldn't like to guess at whether cash moved from CNN to Virgin or vice versa, as I said, it would depend on the terms of the contract.

Media Boy UK · 19-10-2022, 16:51

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Originally Posted by epsilon

It depends on the contract. In theory, there are 2 elements, carriage costs (payable by the broadcaster) and revenue share (the share of subscription income paid to the broadcaster by Virgin & dependant on the subscription tier). These can be offset in the contract so that there is only a payment in one direction. I wouldn't like to guess at whether cash moved from CNN to Virgin or vice versa, as I said, it would depend on the terms of the contract.

I feel CNN may reappear on Virgin when Virgin sign a new deal with WBD.

Last Discovery deal was signed in 2019 when some channels moves EPG numbers in September/October 1st 2019 (I post this info under Spolier to save the size of this post):

Spoiler:

Last Warner Media new channel deal was signed in 2012 when than called TCM HD, TCM2 and Cartoon Network HD did launch on Virgin in January 2013.

At time of posting Virgin are missing a following Warner Bros. Discovery own channels:

*Boomerang HD
*Cartoonito HD - Channel broadcast on all non Sky Q brands.
*CNN International
*CNN International HD
*Discovery Turbo +1
*Food Network +1
*Quest Red +1

epsilon · 19-10-2022, 18:06

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK

I feel CNN may reappear on Virgin when Virgin sign a new deal with WBD.

Anything is possible but we don't know the actual reason why CNN+ was shuttered and what plans the merged entity has to include it in their packages. WBD, on the whole, gives the impression of a boat without a rudder at the moment.

As for the HD versions of the kids channels landing on Virgin, I've already said on another forum that viewers would probably be better ditching the kids pack and using the money saved to fund one of the many reduced price NOW subscriptions that forum members keep mentioning. With NOW the kids channels are thrown in with the entertainment pack and with BOOST (again, discounts are available) are in HD. And with Sky Atlantic and Peacock thrown in as a bonus.