U.S President: Donald Trump

[denphone]

The trouble with The Times and FT is its behind a paywall and thus not many cannot read it.

Originally Posted by denphone

The trouble with The Times and FT is its behind a paywall and thus not many cannot read it.

That's how they can afford to pay journalists and avoid the temptation to have click-bait. Typically there are fewer new stories in The Times on any given day but what they do have is more in-depth or revealing. Certainty better than the AP copy printed in the Guardian or Telegraph accompanied by the trolling opinion piece about how outrageous x is (x being conservatives or liberals depending on the paper).

Retweeted by Trump - enjoy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...723329/video/1

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Retweeted by Trump - enjoy.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...723329/video/1

Would've been better if he'd turned up the awesomeness and Retweeted kick that soccer ball

http://metro.co.uk/2014/06/09/hilari...tbull-4754902/

[ianch99]

I thought it was Hillary that was supposed to start WWIII

Originally Posted by ianch99

I thought it was Hillary that was supposed to start WWIII

Yes, it would have started over 8 months ago, with Russia, as soon as she wanted to introduce her very optimistic no fly zone over Syria.

Thank goodness she lost the election. We avoided a serious military confrontation there, that we would have got dragged in to.

Russia was already preparing for war and told it's own citizens to be ready and we would be there, if she had won.

Even the Green Presidential candidate Jill Stein, who is no fan of Trump, suggested Hillary was a warmonger. Stein said about Donald Trump was that she found Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy to be “scarier” than his.

But anyway, looks around at current events, where has WW3 started ?

Because I must have missed it.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Mick

Yes, it would have started over 8 months ago, with Russia, as soon as she wanted to introduce her very optimistic no fly zone over Syria.

Thank goodness she lost the election. We avoided a serious military confrontation there, that we would have got dragged in to.

Russia was already preparing for war and told it's own citizens to be ready and we would be there, if she had won.

Even the Green Presidential candidate Jill Stein, who is no fan of Trump, suggested Hillary was a warmonger. Stein said about Donald Trump was that she found Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy to be “scarier” than his.

But anyway, looks around at current events, where has WW3 started ?

Because I must have missed it.

It hasn't (last time I checked) but the Doomsday clock has just recently moved to 2 1/2 minutes to 12, and hasn't been worse since 1953.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-38760792

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by daveeb

It hasn't (last time I checked) but the Doomsday clock has just recently moved to 2 1/2 minutes to 12, and hasn't been worse since 1953.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-38760792

To put the Doomsday clock into perspective, from 2012 it stood a 5 mins to midnight until 2015 when it moved forward 2mins. A full 2mins chqange pre-Trump.

This year it has been moved an unprecidented 30secs.

With Hillary as President, there would not have even been any kind of clock...

I would like to ask people what they would do with Kim Jong-Fatun, who says he they will have capability to reach Hawaii or even Alaska...

This has escalated over the course of the last few decades... Kim's father was no different, only he did not have nuclear missiles to play with.

....Repeated Diplomacy avenues have failed...
....Repeated Sanctions have failed....

Evidence suggests they now have the Nuclear capability.... what is the World to do, not just Donald J. Trump?

We are in a constant stalemate with the Korean peninsula as China is reluctant to do stuff because they do not want a failed state on their doorstep and would not want a new democratic regime that was allied with the U.S.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by pip08456

To put the Doomsday clock into perspective, from 2012 it stood a 5 mins to midnight until 2015 when it moved forward 2mins. A full 2mins chqange pre-Trump.

This year it has been moved an unprecidented 30secs.

True, but the change gets more significant the closer you get, there's not a lot of wriggle room. We're in Cuban missile crisis territory as far as the clock is concerned.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by daveeb

True, but the change gets more significant the closer you get, there's not a lot of wriggle room. We're in Cuban missile crisis territory as far as the clock is concerned.

Not sure that's entirely true - the ships, missiles and warheads on the way to Cuba were Russian. Nobody is supporting NK to the same extent although it's clearly a tricky situation with the proximity of China.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by daveeb

True, but the change gets more significant the closer you get, there's not a lot of wriggle room. We're in Cuban missile crisis territory as far as the clock is concerned.

Had the previous US administration done more sooner to kerb nuclear proliferation we would still have wiggle room.

The present posturing by NK is a direct result of this.

How would you handle NK?

[Osem]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Had the previous US administration done more sooner to kerb nuclear proliferation we would still have wiggle room.

The present posturing by NK is a direct result of this.

How would you handle NK?

I think we should send a delegation of senior CND members over there to negotiate and see how they get on...

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Osem

I think we should send a delegation of senior CND members over there to negotiate and see how they get on...

If you can get agreement from NK for them to enter the country.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by Osem

I think we should send a delegation of senior CND members over there to negotiate and see how they get on...

Might go OK if they take lots of cheese.