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Old 10-08-2022, 10:13   #256
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Plus they have to securely look after the deeds and paperwork
Deeds are all electronic now. When we paid off the mortgage we asked about deed storage etc and were told it's not needed. But that could just be NatWest.
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The fact that they have proposals to privatise Channel 4 but not to tackle inflation by getting some of the one million over 50s back into work who left the job market during the pandemic tells you all you need to know.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62471260
So nothing whatsoever says they are focussing on those issues, to the exclusion of all others? Different departments, so they are capable of doing more than one thing simultaneously.
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So nothing whatsoever says they are focussing on those issues, to the exclusion of all others? Different departments, so they are capable of doing more than one thing simultaneously.
Pretty obvious - there are no viable proposals to sort the crisis out - compare that to Ed Davey's and Gordon Brown's proposals.
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Pretty obvious - there are no viable proposals to sort the crisis out - compare that to Ed Davey's and Gordon Brown's proposals.
Ah, yes - much easier to shout from the sidelines and demand more money.
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Ah, yes - much easier to shout from the sidelines and demand more money.
I'm sure they'd rather be in power serving their country in its hour of need rather than being a silent quitter like Johnson.

He should get the two candidates together for the best of the country and Party and sort things out. The opposition parties and people like Martin Lewis have done his homework for him. He just needs to follow through.
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I'm sure they'd rather be in power serving their country in its hour of need rather than being a silent quitter like Johnson.

He should get the two candidates together for the best of the country and Party and sort things out. The opposition parties and people like Martin Lewis have done his homework for him. He just needs to follow through.
Oh, so having been subject to a barrage of abuse and hounded out of office, he’s now a quitter! You would be the first to moan if he was still hanging on to office.

The reality is, the cost of living crisis is already being dealt with and a small fortune has been spent in help for people who are desperate. The money is still rolling out now.

What people are worried about now is further increases announced to the price cap further down the line. Any further help will not be forthcoming until that is due to hit.

The new PM will address that when he/she takes office on 5 September.
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Oh, so having been subject to a barrage of abuse and hounded out of office, he’s now a quitter! You would be the first to moan if he was still hanging on to office.

The reality is, the cost of living crisis is already being dealt with and a small fortune has been spent in help for people who are desperate. The money is still rolling out now.

What people are worried about now is further increases announced to the price cap further down the line. Any further help will not be forthcoming until that is due to hit.

The new PM will address that when he/she takes office on 5 September.
I said silent quitter ie someone who does the bare minimal work and is not engaged with it. One stage worse than a quiet quitter!

He was not hounded out of office, his colleagues lost confidence in him. I think the process to decide his replacement is old-fashioned and lethargic. It makes the TiVo box look like a rocket and it's a shame the Party can't speed it up.

People are having sleepness nights over the current cost of living crisis, let alone future energy hikes. They need action and plans now. Instead they see Sunak and Truss constantly point-scoring whilst London burns.

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I said silent quitter ie someone who does the bare minimal work and is not engaged with it. One stage worse than a quiet quitter!

He was not hounded out of office, his colleagues lost confidence in him. I think the process to decide his replacement is old-fashioned and lethargic. It makes the TiVo box look like a rocket and it's a shame the Party can't speed it up.

People are having sleepness nights over the current cost of living crisis, let alone future energy hikes. They need action and plans now. Instead they see Sunak and Truss constantly point-scoring whilst London burns.
He was hounded out of office by the Opposition and the media, as you well know. They forced the party into this position because they just would not move on and it forced a major slowdown in the conduct of the government’s business.

I don’t know what you expect the man to do, it is convention that no major budget decisions are made by an existing PM while an election for a replacement PM takes place.

Some people like yourself like to paint the picture that nothing is happening to help people who are struggling. So what is the £1,200 support for lower income families, then? Scotch mist?
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He was hounded out of office by the Opposition and the media, as you well know. They forced the party into this position because they just would not move on and it forced a major slowdown in the conduct of the government’s business.

I don’t know what you expect the man to do, it is convention that no major budget decisions are made by an existing PM while an election for a replacement PM takes place.

Some people like yourself like to paint the picture that nothing is happening to help people who are struggling. So what is the £1,200 support for lower income families, then? Scotch mist?
Old Boy, to believe your first sentence you must be on the Scotch mist but it's too early for me to join you!

The man had a 75+ seat majority so the Opposition couldn't get rid of him or delay his legislation. It had to come from within the Party which it eventually did.
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He was hounded out of office by the Opposition and the media, as you well know. They forced the party into this position because they just would not move on and it forced a major slowdown in the conduct of the government’s business.

I don’t know what you expect the man to do, it is convention that no major budget decisions are made by an existing PM while an election for a replacement PM takes place.

Some people like yourself like to paint the picture that nothing is happening to help people who are struggling. So what is the £1,200 support for lower income families, then? Scotch mist?
Actually if you want to know the truth on why he was finally hounded out of office then perhaps this might enlighten you as given the media is 90% supportive of the Conservatives they certainly did not hound him out of office.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...have-resigned-
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Actually if you want to know the truth on why he was finally hounded out of office then perhaps this might enlighten you as given the media is 90% supportive of the Conservatives they certainly did not hound him out of office.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...have-resigned-
Comedy gold Den

You do realise that "The Media" includes TV newsrooms don't you?

The anti Tory elements of the media far outweigh the pro Tory group.

Channel 4, Sky, BBC, Mirror, Guardian, Independent etc. are not just 10% of the media.
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Comedy gold Den

You do realise that "The Media" includes TV newsrooms don't you?

The anti Tory elements of the media far outweigh the pro Tory group.

Channel 4, Sky, BBC, Mirror, Guardian, Independent etc. are not just 10% of the media.
Only two of those would be classed as anti government.

The rest are certainly not anti government.


You do know who the majority owner of the Independent is?.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evgeny_Lebedev
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Old Boy, to believe your first sentence you must be on the Scotch mist but it's too early for me to join you!

The man had a 75+ seat majority so the Opposition couldn't get rid of him or delay his legislation. It had to come from within the Party which it eventually did.
It is true that Boris could have carried on, but there is a General Election in a couple of years and the opposition and media wouldn’t leave it alone. The Conservatives had to recognise this, which is why they told him to step down. Noother reason, and you know it. Brought down by trivia. We mustn’t let them get away with that again.

I really don’t know who you think you are kidding.

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Actually if you want to know the truth on why he was finally hounded out of office then perhaps this might enlighten you as given the media is 90% supportive of the Conservatives they certainly did not hound him out of office.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...have-resigned-
How do you make that out? Why do you think GB News sprang up? The left wing bias of the media, and particularly the BBC, needs to be addressed if market forces can’t sort it out.
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It is true that Boris could have carried on, but there is a General Election in a couple of years and the opposition and media wouldn’t leave it alone. The Conservatives had to recognise this, which is why they told him to step down. Noother reason, and you know it. Brought down by trivia. We mustn’t let them get away with that again.

I really don’t know who you think you are kidding.
Brought down by his lack of honesty. Trivial to some perhaps.

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How do you make that out? Why do you think GB News sprang up? The left wing bias of the media, and particularly the BBC, needs to be addressed if market forces can’t sort it out.
GB News is driven by the whims of overseas billionaire funders, not a sizeable market gap, or it actually might be in profit.
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It is true that Boris could have carried on, but there is a General Election in a couple of years and the opposition and media wouldn’t leave it alone. The Conservatives had to recognise this, which is why they told him to step down. Noother reason, and you know it. Brought down by trivia. We mustn’t let them get away with that again.

I really don’t know who you think you are kidding.

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How do you make that out? Why do you think GB News sprang up? The left wing bias of the media, and particularly the BBC, needs to be addressed if market forces can’t sort it out.
The only left wing bias of the media is the one in your mind as the vast majority of the media are full of government supporting client journalists.
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