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Old 01-03-2018, 10:47   #4141
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Also being added as a standalone app to the Now TV box.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:05   #4142
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At last, Sky have seen the light. Virgin need to add Amazon and lots more apps to the V6 to keep ahead in this area.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:26   #4143
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At last, Sky have seen the light. Virgin need to add Amazon and lots more apps to the V6 to keep ahead in this area.

Could be a two-edged sword.

Most People have a finite amount of money to spend on entertainment. Adding apps that cost money to get streamed content might make VM customers reduce their VM TV package - on the other hand not having the apps might make people leave.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:32   #4144
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Could be a two-edged sword.

Most People have a finite amount of money to spend on entertainment. Adding apps that cost money to get streamed content might make VM customers reduce their VM TV package - on the other hand not having the apps might make people leave.
Although that is a concern, I think that offering apps on the Sky and Virgin Media platforms is the way to go. It's what people want and it is such features that will attract customers. Price structuring is important, so for example you could say that the video apps (apart from existing on demand and catch up services) are only available to Full House subscribers.

Now that Sky have seen the light and are adding Netflix to Sky Q, Virgin Media needs to get its act together by getting Amazon and other apps on its system.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:35   #4145
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It's nothing to do with seeing the light Sky is a content provider where in the main Virgin just resell others content this makes it easier to add other competing services.
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Old 01-03-2018, 12:46   #4146
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It's nothing to do with seeing the light Sky is a content provider where in the main Virgin just resell others content this makes it easier to add other competing services.
Then VM are going to have to change. As OB has said streaming is the future, that is what the younger end (future income) want. If VM can't get on board with that then they will suffer.
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Now that Sky have seen the light and are adding Netflix to Sky Q, Virgin Media needs to get its act together by getting Amazon and other apps on its system.

Now Amazon have added channels to the Prime app, albeit with an added subscription, i can't see VM having it.

Unless Amazon agreed to remove their channels to get on the box but i can't see that TBH.
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Now Amazon have added channels to the Prime app, albeit with an added subscription, i can't see VM having it.

Unless Amazon agreed to remove their channels to get on the box but i can't see that TBH.
OK, don't forget SKY are moving to a streaming platform, that'll leave VM dead in the water.

That said could this be why VM are looking to release DOCSIS 3.1?? More bandwidth which would suit streaming by more users?
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It's nothing to do with seeing the light Sky is a content provider where in the main Virgin just resell others content this makes it easier to add other competing services.
Of course it is. This is a major change in strategy for Sky, who saw the likes of Netflix only as competitors. Over this last few months they have completely changed tack and now they are facing up to the fact that their existing model cannot form part of their long term strategy.

In future, all content will be on demand, not through the hundreds of pay channels Sky currently offer. In the future the choice will be between Sky's own on demand/streaming services and other subscription, pay per view and ads financed on demand/catch up services.

I know that not everyone likes that idea, but this is the future, and those companies that don't embrace it will not be here in a decade or so.
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Of course it is. This is a major change in strategy for Sky, who saw the likes of Netflix only as competitors. Over this last few months they have completely changed tack and now they are facing up to the fact that their existing model cannot form part of their long term strategy.

In future, all content will be on demand, not through the hundreds of pay channels Sky currently offer. In the future the choice will be between Sky's own on demand/streaming services and other subscription, pay per view and ads financed on demand/catch up services.

I know that not everyone likes that idea, but this is the future, and those companies that don't embrace it will not be here in a decade or so.
Any idea when this future will arrive 2020, 2030, 2100 ?
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Any idea when this future will arrive 2020, 2030, 2100 ?
The BBC think within 15 years. That's what they are basing their strategy on.
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OK, don't forget SKY are moving to a streaming platform, that'll leave VM dead in the water.

That said could this be why VM are looking to release DOCSIS 3.1?? More bandwidth which would suit streaming by more users?
Why do you think Sky moving to a streaming platform will leave VM dead in the water?
 
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Why do you think Sky moving to a streaming platform will leave VM dead in the water?
What will VM have to offer to counter it? Same,old, same old unless they also embrace it.
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What will VM have to offer to counter it? Same,old, same old unless they also embrace it.
Depends what their model is based on, from what I can gather the mark up on the TV side is not great, whereas their mark up on broadband and telephone is very good as its their own network. You also need a vehicle to deliver any streaming service and they have that, so you could see a world where consumers take a Sky streaming service but VM broadband to deliver it?
 
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What will VM have to offer to counter it? Same,old, same old unless they also embrace it.
But VM already have a deal with Netflix, they also own all their infrastructure.
Sky have to use other peoples infrastructure and are reliant on others to deliver their online services.
VM are also in the process of commissioning their own content.
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