20-09-2022, 16:27
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
US trade deal not in our hands. Remember, Biden is Irish.
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Throughout the Troubles, Biden voiced support for the Irish cause and sometimes took action in the Senate. In 1985, he opposed an extradition treaty with Britain that would have affected members of the Irish Republican Army who had fled to the United States. Taking issue with the British administration of justice in Northern Ireland, he helped force the GOP to water down the agreement.
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20-09-2022, 16:37
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
US trade deal not in our hands. Remember, Biden is Irish.
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Just saw the news hidden in Damien's link about banker bonuses so posted the snippet.
Despite the promises of 2017, I don't think it was really ever on the cards whoever the President was. The US is focused on its treaty with Mexico and Canada and doesn't see the need to go beyond this given its large market size.
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Throughout the Troubles, Biden voiced support for the Irish cause and sometimes took action in the Senate. In 1985, he opposed an extradition treaty with Britain that would have affected members of the Irish Republican Army who had fled to the United States. Taking issue with the British administration of justice in Northern Ireland, he helped force the GOP to water down the agreement.
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People's views change - Truss was more recently a Leaver, before that a Liberal Democrat and before that an anti-monarchist.
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20-09-2022, 16:42
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Just saw the news hidden in Damien's link about banker bonuses so posted the snippet.
Despite the promises of 2017, I don't think it was really ever on the cards whoever the President was. The US is focused on its treaty with Mexico and Canada and doesn't see the need to go beyond this given its large market size.
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People's views change - Truss was more recently a Leaver, before that a Liberal Democrat and before that an anti-monarchist.
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She never supported a bunch of murdering terrorists and as far as i know the things she did support were all legal
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20-09-2022, 16:54
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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US trade deal not in our hands. Remember, Biden is Irish.
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In 2016, Barack Obama warned it could take the United Kingdom up to 10 years to negotiate trade deals with the US. This was dismissed as Project Fear.
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20-09-2022, 16:55
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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She never supported a bunch of murdering terrorists and as far as i know the things she did support were all legal
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Agreed, my point was about a politician's views being able to shift over time.
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20-09-2022, 18:09
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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In 2016, Barack Obama warned it could take the United Kingdom up to 10 years to negotiate trade deals with the US. This was dismissed as Project Fear.
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He's a racist pig who hates the British who gives a toss about his opinion
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20-09-2022, 18:37
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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He's a racist pig who hates the British who gives a toss about his opinion
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why because he told the truth and leavers don't like it
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20-09-2022, 19:34
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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why because he told the truth and leavers don't like it
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Doesn't alter the fact that Biden doesn't like the UK and prefers Ireland - and behaves accordingly.
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20-09-2022, 19:40
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Doesn't alter the fact that Biden doesn't like the UK and prefers Ireland - and behaves accordingly.
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even if Trump was still in they be no trade deal congress would not allow it because of uk going to break NI protocol and threating the GFA people from both parties in America have said that
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20-09-2022, 20:13
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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even if Trump was still in they be no trade deal congress would not allow it because of uk going to break NI protocol and threating the GFA people from both parties in America have said that
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... and, of course, they'd be wrong.
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20-09-2022, 21:14
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Didn’t think you wanted one anyway? You know all that chlorinated chicken et Al. You should be happy.
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20-09-2022, 21:35
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Didn’t think you wanted one anyway? You know all that chlorinated chicken et Al. You should be happy.
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If you can get a deal on the right terms, it would obviously be good for the country so I'd be up for it. But as I said before, the US is not particularly interested in going much beyond its current free trade area with Mexico and Canada, whoever is in power.
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22-09-2022, 19:57
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Re: Britain outside the EU
I think the Telegraph is trolling Johnson here over getting Brexit done! But I predict now Truss is PM we'll get this resolved and hopefully this will pave the way for us to participate in Horizon Europe.
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Brexit deal looks closer than ever under Liz Truss
A Brexit deal looks more likely than not after Britain set a six-month deadline for negotiations over the Northern Ireland Protocol.
The one thing Brexit deadlines have in common is that they are almost all missed. A deal to cut Irish Sea border checks, however, can be struck by the 25th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement in April.
By setting the deadline, Liz Truss has taken the threat of the Northern Ireland Protocol Bill off the table for now. The prospect of tearing up the treaty with the legislation enraged the EU, which said the move would break international law.
The rhetoric from both sides has softened. London and Dublin have talked of a “landing zone” for the agreement.
That lies somewhere between reducing checks enough to satisfy Britain while keeping enough safeguards to reassure Brussels that nothing not meeting EU standards crosses from Northern Ireland into Ireland.
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...3994b5987e14b1
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01-10-2022, 10:52
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Re: Britain outside the EU
I wonder what we've done differently to the rest of the G7?
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UK remains only G7 economy to languish below pre-pandemic levels
GDP stuck 0.2% below final quarter of 2019, but latest growth data now positive
Significant revisions to UK data indicate that Britain is the only G7 economy that remains smaller than it was before the pandemic, despite an improved performance in the second quarter that diminished fears of recession.
Office for National Statistics figures released on Friday showed that UK gross domestic product for the three months to June this year remained 0.2 per cent below the level it reached in the final quarter of 2019.
Previously, official data had indicated that GDP had risen 0.6 per cent above pre-pandemic levels by June.
By contrast with the UK’s failure to return to pre-pandemic levels, the eurozone economy reached 1.8 per cent above 2019 levels in the second quarter. The US had recovered to pre-pandemic levels by the start of last year.
Friday’s UK growth downgrade was largely due to a lower ONS estimate of 2020 output. However, growth for 2021 and this year was revised higher.
Samuel Tombs, chief UK economist at Pantheon Macroeconomics, said the figures will compel the Office for Budget Responsibility, the UK fiscal watchdog, to revise down further its estimates for future potential GDP. They would also mean that the tax-to-GDP ratio will be slightly higher than previously estimated.
“The damage inflicted to the economy’s supply side by Covid and Brexit is even larger than previously thought,” Tombs said.
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https://www.ft.com/content/4edae69b-...a-03d14ca8caa6
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02-10-2022, 20:29
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Re: Britain outside the EU
Tory MP Steve Baker apologies to Ireland and EU for behaviour during Brexit
Northern Ireland secretary says he and colleagues had not always respected others’ ‘legitimate interests’
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-during-brexit
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