30-11-2018, 21:42
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Re: All-in-One Computers
Basically an all in one is a laptop in a different format.
But whenever you buy a new PC it has Windows installed up to the point of personal configuration. So you set up the users and your personal preferences.
With Windows 10 one of the first things it asks for is your WiFi details if it's not connected via a wired connection. This is so it can activate and start updating itself.
If you don't have any network connection then you can still activate over the phone, but that's extremely unlikely in 2018!
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30-11-2018, 22:24
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Re: All-in-One Computers
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
Basically an all in one is a laptop in a different format.
But whenever you buy a new PC it has Windows installed up to the point of personal configuration. So you set up the users and your personal preferences.
With Windows 10 one of the first things it asks for is your WiFi details if it's not connected via a wired connection. This is so it can activate and start updating itself.
If you don't have any network connection then you can still activate over the phone, but that's extremely unlikely in 2018!
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Thank you again Ben for some excellent advice.
My "modem" is shown in the image - I believe it is called a Superhub 1.
I understand it is a WiFi modem - please confirm - and it will give the appropriate signal to the all-in-one PC located about 4 -5 feet away. All the details are on the side sticker.
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01-12-2018, 08:51
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Re: All-in-One Computers
Yes, it's a WiFi router.
But if the two are that close I'd still recommended a wired connection if you can. Wireless won't be an issue normally, however wired is generally always better where you can and for connected devices that don't move.
This is because wireless connections can be subject to interference and other issues like any radio signal. A wired connection will be more stable.
Your new computer has an Ethernet socket on it so does support a wired connection.
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01-12-2018, 11:16
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Re: All-in-One Computers
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Yes, it's a WiFi router.
But if the two are that close I'd still recommended a wired connection if you can. Wireless won't be an issue normally, however wired is generally always better where you can and for connected devices that don't move.
This is because wireless connections can be subject to interference and other issues like any radio signal. A wired connection will be more stable.
Your new computer has an Ethernet socket on it so does support a wired connection.
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Ben,
You have given me all the information I need to buy the new set and I am so grateful.
My intention is to locate my new set near my existing XP set so that I can take all the time I like in transferring over all the XP data I possibly can and when all done, clear my XP hard drive and dump it. I can then connect up my new set to the existing Superhub router's Ethernet cable by USB as my only PC
No problems there Ben ?
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01-12-2018, 12:37
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Re: All-in-One Computers
No that won't be any issue.
But remember you don't need any adapters for the Ethernet cable in your new PC. If you are using a USB adapter on your existing computer, remove it from the Ethernet cable before plugging that into your new PC.
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01-12-2018, 12:57
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Re: All-in-One Computers
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No that won't be any issue.
But remember you don't need any adapters for the Ethernet cable in your new PC. If you are using a USB adapter on your existing computer, remove it from the Ethernet cable before plugging that into your new PC.
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Ben, you have given me all the information I need to go ahead.
A million thanks.
PS - "adapter" ? A cable is plugged into my router and likewise plugged into my PC, I do not seem to have any adapter. just two plugs - one out - one in.
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01-12-2018, 13:06
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Re: All-in-One Computers
USB:
Ethernet:
the ethernet cable should go from the Router to the rear of the PC, same plug type both ends
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01-12-2018, 14:05
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Re: All-in-One Computers
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USB:
The ethernet cable should go from the Router to the rear of the PC, same plug type both ends
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I am sure that is what I have. Will check when I next pull the PC cabinet out of my console.
I look to be "all systems go" now.
Thank you.
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When I first switch on my new WiFi PC, will it display a panel asking for my network details as shown on my Superhub router ?
For example -
USER NAME
PASSWORD
WS PIN =
PASS PHRASE
SSID
And once entered, the PC will be fully live ?
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01-12-2018, 16:49
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Re: All-in-One Computers
You'll probably have to open the network and sharing centre from the task bar. Browse for available connections. Click the one starting with VM (should be the strongest) and then a number and then you'll be prompted to enter your WiFi details.
The centre will also show all the available WiFi signals in your area. Most should be encrypted and secured.
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01-12-2018, 16:56
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Re: All-in-One Computers
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Originally Posted by heero_yuy
You'll probably have to open the network and sharing centre from the task bar. Browse for available connections. Click the one starting with VM (should be the strongest) and then a number and then you'll be prompted to enter your WiFi details.
The centre will also show all the available WiFi signals in your area. Most should be encrypted and secured.
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That will be the same VM and number on the back of your router.
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02-12-2018, 10:15
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Re: All-in-One Computers
Windows 10 changed in the last update as I format my pc at least 3/4 times a year it gets cluttered with crap.
At the load screen when you first turn it on it will start finishing the installation/user profile. during this stage it will setup the wifi or in this case ethernet. the only thing you might need to do is disable the wifi settings if it automatically wants to use that instead of the ethernet cable but it may ask you during the installation what connection you are using.
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As for installing windows 10 if for whatever reason the restore function of the pc failed and you had to replace windows 10 you can download windows 10 from the microsoft site and buy a CD key online... I paid £2.99 on ebay for a key and it's worked fine. most people install windows via USB these days I have a portable CD drive as my pc doesn't have drive bays.
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13-12-2018, 17:31
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Re: All-in-One Computers
Thank you everybody on this thread and my other for all the help given.
My new computer is now working perfectly, all set up the way I want it. I have loaded all the XP files I need successfully, even the Thunderbird address book for my emails.
Without the assistance of this Forum it would have been very difficult for me going to Win 10 after 14 years on XP. I got little help from another forum I tried.
Thank you all.
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13-12-2018, 21:53
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Re: All-in-One Computers
Glad we could be of help and you've got a setup that works for you
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