Funding of the BBC

[Mr K]

Maybe you should give your views to the BBC consultation OB ?

Even if you did convince us ,we can't change anything

[denphone]

In my view the BBC changing over to a voluntary subscription would lose them a significant amount number of viewers but it won't happen so that's the end of that.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

How do you arrive that this conclusion, please?

We've all heard that practically everyone uses the BBC one way or another and that its programmes are superior and more wide ranging than on any other channels. Accordingly, I have no doubt that the vast majority of the population will elect to pay a subscription. They might even start receiving money from people who currently avoid paying, as unless you paid, you would not be able to access the service!

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Originally Posted by denphone

In my view the BBC changing over to a voluntary subscription would lose them a significant amount number of viewers but it won't happen so that's the end of that.

I wouldn't expect you to hold any other view, Den, as of course nothing ever changes.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

We've all heard that practically everyone uses the BBC one way or another and that its programmes are superior and more wide ranging than on any other channels. Accordingly, I have no doubt that the vast majority of the population will elect to pay a subscription. They might even start receiving money from people who currently avoid paying, as unless you paid, you would not be able to access the service!

So you think the vast majority are going to be paying for a subscription that would be way over what a household is paying now then you are living in la-la land.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I wouldn't expect you to hold any other view, Den, as of course nothing ever changes.

Actual reality is far better then being totally unrealistic l find OB.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

So you think the vast majority are going to be paying for a subscription that would be way over what a household is paying now then you are living in la-la land.

You are not paying attention, Den. The subscription would replace the licence fee. There is no reason for this to be at a higher price if they also provide a separate offer with ads and no subscription.

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Channel 4 are at it as well! Free with ads or subscription with no ads. Most SVOD services will offer dual options such as this in the future.

https://www.tvbeurope.com/tvbeverywh...l-its-own-svod

Channel 4 is to trial its own subscription video-on-demand service.

All 4+ will launch as a web only beta test with an invited sample group in December.

In a statement to TVBEurope, the broadcaster said the results of the beta test will be evaluated during early 2019 and will inform the future strategic development of the product.

It's thought the service will cost £3.99 for advert-free access.

[Taf]

Just as Traffic Wardens were under Police budgets and control, became Parking Attendants, then Civil Enforcement Officers under Council budgets and control, I foresee the BBC taking over the budget and control of the TV Licensing company. Tweaks to how the license is collected, and from whom, will continue, with some tweaks for Pensioner licences, perhaps making them means tested.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

We've all heard that practically everyone uses the BBC one way or another and that its programmes are superior and more wide ranging than on any other channels. Accordingly, I have no doubt that the vast majority of the population will elect to pay a subscription. They might even start receiving money from people who currently avoid paying, as unless you paid, you would not be able to access the service!

So ... you don’t have any evidence. You’re building assertions on top of anecdotes.

Forgive me if I don’t take your argument very seriously (being as it isn’t, in fact, an argument at all).

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Chris

So ... you don’t have any evidence. You’re building assertions on top of anecdotes.

Forgive me if I don’t take your argument very seriously (being as it isn’t, in fact, an argument at all).

Don't worry he'll start another BBC thread next week...

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Don't worry he'll start another BBC thread next week...

oh no, not another BBC repeat

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Chris

So ... you don’t have any evidence. You’re building assertions on top of anecdotes.

Forgive me if I don’t take your argument very seriously (being as it isn’t, in fact, an argument at all).

No. I was pointing out to the naysayers on this Forum that it was they themselves who have been talking up the value of the BBC.

If you genuinely believe in that, why would you think that great numbers would decide not to pay what they are paying now?

Of course this is a legitimate argument. It is simply not on that people who don't take the service have to pay for it anyway.

[ntluser]

The BBC have known for years that the funds raised from the licence fee were never going to match their expenditure given the amount of money they waste paying absolutely massive and unnecessary salaries.

The BBC have not learned the lessons of the past whereby we all have to live within our means. Instead they waste losts of money and expect ordinary people with limited means to pick up the tab.

We need to sack Tony Hall and members of the BBC Trust and put in place people from the National Audit Office who are brilliant at identifying money wasted by the government and could do the same at the BBC.

If the BBC decide to go over to a subscription system what will happen to Sky & Virgin customers? Will the BBC charge Sky & Virgin more for BBC channels? It may well be that rather than subscribe directly to the BBC, customers may simply stick with Sky and Virgin on the assumption it will be cheaper.

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.

Without the BBC we have no reliable PBS.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Without the BBC we have no reliable PBS.

The Beeb will not be going anywhere!

[denphone]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The Beeb will not be going anywhere!

Well at least we can agree on that..

[heero_yuy]

Of course the BBC will continue. But I'm searching with a microscope and I can't see any unique PSB output. In the listings that is.