UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal - Page 315

Mad Max · 05-12-2020, 13:28

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All carefully stage managed theatrics to con the Brexiteers that we're getting a 'great deal'.

The real deal will already gave been done. Pretend the EU want 10 year fishing rights, when really they'd settle for 5, and the Brexiteers want none. Then sell 5 as a marvellous UK 'victory over Johnny Foreigner. Fact is even with a deal we all lose badly for decades. Increased prices on everything, here we come. Enjoy taking back control !

Source?

Mr K · 05-12-2020, 13:31

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Source?

Economics is the source old chap. I'm afraid Farage has done you up like a (u)kipper.

Mad Max · 05-12-2020, 13:33

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Economics is the source old chap. I'm afraid Farage has done you up like a (u)kipper.

Not at all, we all have a vote, you just happened to vote the wrong way.

papa smurf · 05-12-2020, 13:42

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Source?

Talking out of his arse so you can guess the source

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Economics is the source old chap. I'm afraid Farage has done you up like a (u)kipper.

it's being bitter and twisted that keeps you going isn't it.

**Mick** · 05-12-2020, 18:18

BREAKING: A joint statement from Boris Johnson and the President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen says "significant differences remain on three critical issues: level playing field, governance and fisheries."

A No Deal Brexit it is then.

jfman · 05-12-2020, 18:22

We will fold before it comes to that. It's all about giving Boris something unpalatable but polished up enough for him to sell.

Sephiroth · 05-12-2020, 18:43

Yesterday's leader in the Torygraph was pitched exactly right.

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It was always likely that the trade talks with the EU would go down to the wire.
On the face of it, each side has every incentive to reach mutually beneficial terms, given the enormous amount of trade we do with each other, as well as our close diplomatic and military partnership. But the EU is not a simple trade bloc. It is an ideological project devoted to ever closer union. No country has ever left before, and Brussels has been determined from the start that no country will ever do so again.

Set against the EU's intransigence, the UK's position is not unreasonable: it wishes to regain its sovereignty and be treated like any other third country, while enjoying profitable trading relations with its European friends. In practice, this means UK control over its laws, borders and waters.

On this last point, however, the talks are stuck......

Any Remainer must, by corollary, be have had the wish to remain with the ideological EU project.

Although the latest news is that the two sides are returning to negotiations, the opposing forces described in the two paragraphs quoted above, now make agreement unlikely.

The EU wants to punish us and in response I say NO FISH FOR FRANCE.

1andrew1 · 05-12-2020, 18:45

The German motor manufacturers are just filling up and are ready to come to rescue the deal as David Davis promised us they would.

Sephiroth · 05-12-2020, 18:53

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The German motor manufacturers are just filling up and are ready to come to rescue the deal as David Davis promised us they would.

What would the French motor manufacturers think to that? Ride ff the backs of the Germans? o Eat less Fish?

**Hugh** · 05-12-2020, 18:58

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Yesterday's leader in the Torygraph was pitched exactly right.

Any Remainer must, by corollary, be have had the wish to remain with the ideological EU project.

Although the latest news is that the two sides are returning to negotiations, the opposing forces described in the two paragraphs quoted above, now make agreement unlikely.

The EU wants to punish us and in response I say NO FISH FOR FRANCE.

Oh noes!!!

I wonder if they can buy fish from anyone else?

Mad Max · 05-12-2020, 19:13

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Oh noes!!!

I wonder if they can buy fish from anyone else?

Iceland...

Sephiroth · 05-12-2020, 19:14

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Oh noes!!!

I wonder if they can buy fish from anyone else?

So why is Macron digging in on fish?

papa smurf · 05-12-2020, 19:15

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So why is Macron digging in on fish?

Election in 2022

1andrew1 · 05-12-2020, 19:43

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What would the French motor manufacturers think to that? Ride ff the backs of the Germans? o Eat less Fish?

They probably thought the same as many people - it was nonsense.

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Iceland...

Pierre · 05-12-2020, 20:33

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Oh noes!!!

I wonder if they can buy fish from anyone else?

Not North Atlantic Langoustines ......well not in the quantity they’re used to.

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Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: A joint statement from Boris Johnson and the President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen says "significant differences remain on three critical issues: level playing field, governance and fisheries."

A No Deal Brexit it is then.

I’d be happy for it to go that way, just to see what happens. As they say, don’t go into a negotiation if you’re not prepared to walk away. If we have to walk away, then walk away, it is just part of the negotiations. It certainly would not be the end of anything.