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Old 05-04-2019, 08:10   #1771
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Poor show from UKIP, despite a high profile candidate.
You’re not a very good analyst of election results are you?

They increased their vote share. beat Liberal Democrat’s. Green Party. PC. Who are all Anti-Brexit. Enough said.
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Old 05-04-2019, 09:05   #1772
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You’re not a very good analyst of election results are you?

They increased their vote share. beat Liberal Democrat’s. Green Party. PC. Who are all Anti-Brexit. Enough said.
But down 4,111 votes from 2015 - not much of a resurgence...
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Old 05-04-2019, 09:13   #1773
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But down 4,111 votes from 2015 - not much of a resurgence...
Personally l think it would be rather dangerous to read too much into one by-election.
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Old 05-04-2019, 10:02   #1774
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I think May voting time will find some people are so disgusted they will not vote,
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I think May voting time will find some people are so disgusted they will not vote,
Yes it would not surprise me if there was a low turnout nash given many peoples disgust with the whole political system.
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Old 05-04-2019, 11:18   #1776
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I think May voting time will find some people are so disgusted they will not vote,
Well that's the usual situation in any election. Too many apathetic,disaffected and disenfranchised who can't be bothered.
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Well that's the usual situation in any election. Too many apathetic,disaffected and disenfranchised who can't be bothered.
What do you do when all options aren't acceptable to you?

I only vote for something I want and believe in, a choice of 4 different size coconuts is no choice at all.
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Old 05-04-2019, 11:34   #1778
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What do you do when all options aren't acceptable to you?

I only vote for something I want and believe in, a choice of 4 different size coconuts is no choice at all.
People have come to recognise that voting is worthless,as soon as a winner is declared they just do as they please.
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People have come to recognise that voting is worthless,as soon as a winner is declared they just do as they please.
or a winner is declared that doesn't actually win
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People have come to recognise that voting is worthless,as soon as a winner is declared they just do as they please.
You only have to look at the broken promises since the election compared to the manifesto's they all espoused truthfully to the voters at election time and not much stands up to scrutiny if you look at those manifesto's now.
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But down 4,111 votes from 2015 - not much of a resurgence...
This was a by-election not a Main Election - I cannot treat your argument seriously enough, except laugh at the pathetic subdiffusion attempt that it is.

UKIP now to UKIP then, in 2015, far different, not led by Nigel Farage but their vote share has risen again since 2017, so your argument is largely, invalid.
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You only have to look at the broken promises since the election compared to the manifesto's they all espoused truthfully to the voters at election time and not much stands up to scrutiny if you look at those manifesto's now.
The problem is when a group of mp's try to stick to the manifesto promises they are labelled Extremist or Brextremist.
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UKIP doesn't have a prayer under the current electoral system. If there was PR they and the LibDems would do a lot better. However it's how the 2 main parties like it for obvious reasons.
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UKIP doesn't have a prayer under the current electoral system. If there was PR they and the LibDems would do a lot better. However it's how the 2 main parties like it for obvious reasons.
UKIP doesn’t have to have a prayer of holding any parliamentary seats. They have only to keep their vote share high enough to disrupt a few victories here and there for one side or the other. UKIP’s erosion of the Tory vote was a significant factor in Cameron’s decision to go for a referendum in 2016.
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what happens if nobody but the 'die hards' ( aka my dad & grandad voted for them so I will) vote for the 2 main parties?
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