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Old 31-03-2006, 17:12   #16
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Makes sense. My ISP has done the same thing for a long time, but as adoption of BitTorrent clients that support encryption increases, that service at least will no longer we an issue. Newsgroups... different story as the packets are easily identifiable and the protocol probably isn't about to change.
I don't tend to use Bit-torrent that much. Its more Newsgroups. This has now got me looking furiously for an adsl2+ provider in my area.
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Old 31-03-2006, 17:13   #17
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Would they recognise irc transfers and shape those?
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Old 31-03-2006, 17:42   #18
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Would they recognise irc transfers and shape those?
Possibly by looking at the 6000 region port traffic, such as 6667, 6668 etc.
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Old 31-03-2006, 17:47   #19
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Well, for those of you that doubt my credentials when it comes to all things ntl, I suggest you take a look at this website: http://www.allot.com/pages/products_...?intGlobalId=2 & then bookmark this thread for future reference.
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Old 31-03-2006, 17:48   #20
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So how many believed me when i said they might be something going on with my connection. 6 till 12 was when i had my problems. soon as 12.00 midnight was hit it stopped. ? Now i know they have said 11.00pm but they might have been testing so took it till 12.00
Or it could be Bill that the file sharers were most active in your region around that time leaching the bandwidth, but then I'm no expert.
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Old 31-03-2006, 17:51   #21
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So how many believed me when i said they might be something going on with my connection. 6 till 12 was when i had my problems. soon as 12.00 midnight was hit it stopped. ? Now i know they have said 11.00pm but they might have been testing so took it till 12.00
Or it could be Bill that the file sharers were most active in your region around that time leaching the bandwidth, but then I'm no expert.
Well between that and the traffic shaping i am moving supplier.
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Old 31-03-2006, 17:53   #22
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Re: Traffic Shaping

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What is clear though, is that ntl have again failed to properly communicate important changes to the broadband User Policy
Frank, your view here please.

ntl have updated the user policy with something that is going to happen, why do you think ntl have failed here?

Are you referring to the fact that this is in the user policy, and has not been communicated to each customer directly, such as a mail drop?
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Take a wander down to ntlw head end , take a peek at the equipment there set-up to do this and then come back here , lol

This is happening..
All I am saying, is as it looks like congestion is a great problem from where I am, it isn't overly needed to shape. Obviously the equipment will be prioritised to go where its needed the most and if provisioning of the VOD equipment is anything to go by then I have nothing to worry about.
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Well between that and the traffic shaping i am moving supplier.
Which of course is your right.
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Old 31-03-2006, 17:57   #25
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Re: Traffic Shaping

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Makes sense. My ISP has done the same thing for a long time, but as adoption of BitTorrent clients that support encryption increases, that service at least will no longer be an issue. Newsgroups... different story as the packets are easily identifiable and the protocol probably isn't about to change.
So they'll be forcing people off the, relatively easy on the network, newgroups and onto, bandwidth sapping, bittorrent? Sounds like a plan
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From the news article.



Frank, your view here please.

ntl have updated the user policy with something that is going to happen, why do you think ntl have failed here?

Are you referring to the fact that this is in the user policy, and has not been communicated to each customer directly, such as a mail drop?
Because (just like they did with 'The Cap'), they have changed the AUP & not told anyone.

They have just amended the AUP probably in the hope that no one would notice-if ntl have nothing to hide & are willing to stand tall behind their traffic shaping, then why not just come out & announce what they are doing?

No, instead they just change the AUP & hope no one will notice.

As Frank says, clearly they haven't learnt their lesson from last time.

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Old 31-03-2006, 18:00   #27
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What is clear though, is that ntl have again failed to properly communicate important changes to the broadband User Policy
Frank, your view here please.

ntl have updated the user policy with something that is going to happen, why do you think ntl have failed here?

Are you referring to the fact that this is in the user policy, and has not been communicated to each customer directly, such as a mail drop?
So when did they do this. If it was today then this smells of the cap debacle. Remember that was released on a Friday as well and no info given to the poor customer service people who had to field the calls.

I can see this thread just grow and grow and grow
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Old 31-03-2006, 18:02   #28
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Looks like you were correct.
Of course I was right, I normally am when it comes to ntl.

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Well, for those of you that doubt my credentials when it comes to all things ntl, I suggest you take a look at this website: http://www.allot.com/pages/products_...?intGlobalId=2 & then bookmark this thread for future reference.
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Re: Traffic Shaping

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Possibly by looking at the 6000 region port traffic, such as 6667, 6668 etc.
It depends on wether the shaping is port based. IRC XDCC does not use those ports, it uses a random port in a high up range.
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Is this just the NTL side of things, or is it happening on the TW?
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