MonkeyPox

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

I'm not sure on point 3 based on reading this

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45665821

specifically

'Are gay men at greater risk?
Although some of the cases have been seen in gay and bisexual men, anyone who comes into close contact with someone who has monkeypox could potentially get the virus.

The UK Health Security Agency has said "a notable proportion" of the recent cases in the UK and Europe have been found in gay and bisexual men "so we are particularly encouraging them to be alert to the symptoms and seek help if concerned".'

in terms of transmission

'Monkeypox can be spread when someone is in close contact with an infected person. The virus can enter the body through broken skin, the respiratory tract or through the eyes, nose or mouth.

It has not previously been described as a sexually transmitted infection, but it can be passed on by direct contact during sex.

It can also be spread by contact with infected animals such as monkeys, rats and squirrels, or by virus-contaminated objects, such as bedding and clothing.'

All of which is true, but I’m thinking more of what has actually happened in this case, not what can happen in general. Gay men aren’t at greater risk generally, but if an infection occurred within a section of the community that was particularly promiscuous, at a time when promiscuity was likely to be higher (such as a large drug-fuelled rave more likely to be attended by young, sexually active gay men, as has been suggested to be the case here) then that’s the community where the infection is going to get a foothold in this instance.

NEW: UKHSA announces MonkeyPox cases have risen to 106 in the UK.

BREAKING: MonkeyPox cases rises to 179 according to UKHSA.

Originally Posted by Mick

BREAKING: MonkeyPox cases rises to 179 according to UKHSA.

452 confirmed cases in England now.

In the meantime, the latest prize for stupidity goes to the World Health Organization, who are looking at renaming it.

The World Health Organization says it is working with experts to come up with a new name for monkeypox.

It comes after more than 30 scientists wrote last week about the "urgent need for a non-discriminatory and non-stigmatising" name for the virus and the disease it causes.

So instead of working with experts to find the issue, they just want to rename it. Well i suppose that will reduce the Monkeypox count to 0.

I expect Chickenpox is next on the list of these idiots.

[tweetiepooh]

There is a major problem with animal names, Chicken = coward, Monkey = mischievous and you don't want to stigmatise people by associating a label like that to them.


The difficulty is that different nations view animals differently. You need to find an animal that can't be negative when attached to humans but doesn't denigrate any animal that is held in high regard either.

[nomadking]

Link

One new name for it that's been suggested by scientists is hMPXV, but we'll need to wait to hear what the WHO thinks of that.

That just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? Strange that they are only now considering changing the name.
For something that is meant to be difficult to transmit human to human,
there seems to be a lot of cases.

[Taf]

30 scientists suggest renaming monkeypox to MPXV and following this classification with a number indicating the clade, or version, in order of detection.

This would mean MPXV1 would be the new term for the the Central African monkeypox, MPXV2 for the West African variant and MPXV3 for the one currently spreading internationally and in the UK.

The scientists also argue further that the sustained human-to-human transmission of MPXV3 needs a further distinction and should be called hMPXV.

With previous human-to-human outbreaks detected in 2017 and 2019 in the UK, Israel, Nigeria, USA, and Singapore, this would mean the name of the virus/disease causing the current international monkeypox outbreak would be hMPXVB.1

I think most people will continue to call it monkeypox.

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

There is a major problem with animal names,

No there isnt, the only problem is the lunitics inventing issues that dont exist (again).

No one has ever thought someone getting chickenpox is 'cowardly', or someone getting monkeypox is 'mischievous'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62279436

The monkeypox outbreak has been declared a global health emergency by the World Health Organization.

There are only two other such health emergencies at present - the coronavirus pandemic and the continuing effort to eradicate polio.

More than 16,000 cases have now been reported from 75 countries, with five deaths.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

There is a major problem with animal names, Chicken = coward, Monkey = mischievous and you don't want to stigmatise people by associating a label like that to them.


The difficulty is that different nations view animals differently. You need to find an animal that can't be negative when attached to humans but doesn't denigrate any animal that is held in high regard either.

There could also be racial connotations with the name Monkeypox, particularly in light of where it is said to have originated from.

Racists often like to compare black people with primates.

Just seen a news report. A guy who recovered from it said that it was extremely painful, so much so that he gave the doctors treating him carte blanche to take any action that they thought would help.

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Forgot to say that it was also said that it isn't just the typical symptoms that are present when it manifests itself, it can also present itself in the same way as a sexually transmitted disease and has fooled some doctors into erroneously thinking that this was what it was.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

There could also be racial connotations with the name Monkeypox, particularly in light of where it is said to have originated from.

Oh FFS, give it a rest.

Everything in the world is not racist (except to those trying very hard to find it where none exists).

Oh, and its name "originated" from Denmark.

Monkeypox was first identified as a distinct illness in 1958 among laboratory monkeys in Copenhagen, Denmark

[RichardCoulter]

This particular outbreak is said to have started in Central & West Africa.

I suspect that this will be a major reason why they want to change the name. Didn't they do something similar with one particular strain of the coronavirus?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

This particular outbreak is said to have started in Central & West Africa.

I suspect that this will be a major reason why they want to change the name. Didn't they do something similar with one particular strain of the coronavirus?

They did, it was the Irish strain, they called it the potato virus. That was deemed racist so they gave it the correct scientific name of “spudulika.paddi.1b”

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by Pierre

They did, it was the Irish strain, they called it the potato virus. That was deemed racist so they gave it the correct scientific name of “spudulika.paddi.1b”

[Qtx]

Originally Posted by Chris

but if an infection occurred within a section of the community that was particularly promiscuous, at a time when promiscuity was likely to be higher (such as a large drug-fuelled rave more likely to be attended by young, sexually active gay men, as has been suggested to be the case here)

When did drug fuelled raves start to become places for everyone to have sex with each other?

While chemsex may be a thing and the monkeypox spread amongst this particular group fast (like it did with aids incidentally), drugs and the rave side of things are not really a factor in anything. No more than alcohol helping drunk people get laid.