26-11-2020, 15:51
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Re: Coronavirus
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And is that based upon facts or bias?
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It's probably based on 9 months of 'making it up as you go along' aka Sage advice.
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26-11-2020, 15:53
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Re: Coronavirus
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Yes.
I’ve attended games with crowds from 200 to packed cup finals and plenty in between. I’ve done pub crawls to games, been on supporters buses and used public transport too!
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So, knowing what happens on away days etc. do you think that supporters will observe rules? I'll give you pubs etc but unless they make trains dry & the coaches too. regulations will not be enforceable.
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It's probably based on 9 months of 'making it up as you go along' aka Sage advice.
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That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?
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26-11-2020, 15:57
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Re: Coronavirus
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And is that based upon facts or bias?
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Yes.
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26-11-2020, 15:57
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Re: Coronavirus
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So, knowing what happens on away days etc. do you think that supporters will observe rules? I'll give you pubs etc but unless they make trains dry & the coaches too. regulations will not be enforceable.
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That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?
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Yep so much for following the science as its more like following the politics..
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26-11-2020, 15:57
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
So, knowing what happens on away days etc. do you think that supporters will observe rules? I'll give you pubs etc but unless they make trains dry & the coaches too. regulations will not be enforceable.
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Bit difficult for away fans to travel from - say Exeter to Carlisle during a lock down. Everton v Liverpool, or Spurs V West Ham would be easier, but no cross country travel needed there
edit: "That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?"
Yeah, in the case of tier 2 London it seems so
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26-11-2020, 16:01
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Re: Coronavirus
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Bit difficult for away fans to travel from - say Exeter to Carlisle during a lock down. Everton v Liverpool, or Spurs V West Ham would be easier, but no cross country travel needed there
edit: "That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?"
Yeah, in the case of tier 2 London it seems so
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So you accept that it's not Sage as you earlier specified. Excellent
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26-11-2020, 16:08
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Re: Coronavirus
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So, knowing what happens on away days etc. do you think that supporters will observe rules? I'll give you pubs etc but unless they make trains dry & the coaches too. regulations will not be enforceable.
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I think if you turn around and tell a club with 50,000 season ticket holders they are permitted to let 4,000 fans in that statistically the chances of a whole supporters bus all getting a ticket are slim to zero. Similarly the numbers travelling to/from the game on each train/bus/tube service will be tiny compared to a normal match day.
Of the 4,000 (maximum) a sizeable number will travel by private car to games aided by the fact there will be less congestion and easier parking with the restrictions in place.
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26-11-2020, 16:13
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Re: Coronavirus
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I think if you turn around and tell a club with 50,000 season ticket holders they are permitted to let 4,000 fans in that statistically the chances of a whole supporters bus all getting a ticket are slim to zero. Similarly the numbers travelling to/from the game on each train/bus/tube service will be tiny compared to a normal match day.
Of the 4,000 (maximum) a sizeable number will travel by private car to games aided by the fact there will be less congestion and easier parking with the restrictions in place.
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Home fans might... Away fans historically car share especially long distance games
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26-11-2020, 16:15
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Re: Coronavirus
I live north of london so as expected we get screwed by tier 3.
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26-11-2020, 16:16
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
That would be the Sage advice that the government has consistently chosen to ignore when it suits them?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth
Yeah, in the case of tier 2 London it seems so
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
So you accept that it's not Sage as you earlier specified. Excellent
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26-11-2020, 17:13
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Re: Coronavirus
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I live north of london so as expected we get screwed by tier 3.
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So nothing whatsoever to do with the number of cases etc in your region?
How far north of London are Kent, Slough, Bristol, North Somerset, and South Gloucestershire?
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26-11-2020, 17:50
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Re: Coronavirus
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I live north of london so as expected we get screwed by tier 3.
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Plenty of areas north of London are in Tier 2 eg - Cheshire, Cumbria, York, North Yorkshire, Northamptonshire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire. Shropshire, Liverpool City Region including Wirral and Southport, Buckinghamshire, etc.
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26-11-2020, 17:56
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Re: Coronavirus
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Plenty of areas north of London are in Tier 2 eg - Cheshire, Cumbria, York, North Yorkshire, Northamptonshire, Herefordshire, Worcestershire. Shropshire, Liverpool City Region including Wirral and Southport, Buckinghamshire, etc.
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Scarborough in N Yorks has 296 cases per 100000 yet they’re in Tier 2
Please justify this ?
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26-11-2020, 18:06
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Re: Coronavirus
I'm in T3 with 157 cases per 100,000.
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