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Old 26-10-2020, 13:04   #61
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Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals

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Things would be much easier if not for fraud. Because of the fraudsters the system ends up costing more and the rules get more and more complex so many who need help miss out.
Although Fraud exists, it's low in regards to the overall system:
https://assets.publishing.service.go...-estimates.pdf

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2.2% of benefit expenditure was overpaid in 2018/19 This remained the same as in 2017/18. It amounted to 4.1bn of overpayments.

1.1% of benefit expenditure was underpaid in 2018/19 This remained the same as in 2017/18. It amounted to 2.0bn of underpayments

Net Government loss from overpayments was 1.6% of benefit expenditure. This remained the same as in 2017/18. 1.1bn of overpayments were recovered in 2018/19 so the net Government loss was 3.0bn.
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Although Fraud exists, it's low in regards to the overall system:
https://assets.publishing.service.go...-estimates.pdf
How many school dinners would 3bn buy
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Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals

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How many school dinners would 3bn buy
That's a false argument.

Fixing the reasons behind benefit overpayments and underpayments is something that is not simple or quick.

A temporary extension to free school meals while there is global pandemic is something that gives children the food they need and allows for a proper consideration of the issues once England is in a better position to have that discussion.
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Old 26-10-2020, 14:21   #64
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That's a false argument.

Fixing the reasons behind benefit overpayments and underpayments is something that is not simple or quick.

A temporary extension to free school meals while there is global pandemic is something that gives children the food they need and allows for a proper consideration of the issues once England is in a better position to have that discussion.

It wasn't meant as an argument just considering if the gov sorted out these overpayments then there might be a future pot to pay for school meals,i was thinking of the future not now.
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Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals

Ok, sorry in that case. It just seems for some to be the argument for the reason not to do anything now and that's the falsehood.
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Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54841316

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Marcus Rashford: Boris Johnson relents over footballer's campaign with 396m food package

Marcus Rashford's campaign to tackle holiday hunger and child poverty in England has been addressed with a 396m package in a government climbdown.

The prime minister telephoned the footballer on Saturday to tell him of the new plans for targeted support over Christmas, Easter and Summer holidays.

Rashford said nearly 1.7 million children would be helped, adding he had a good conversation with Boris Johnson.
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Just a shame he felt he had to wait to the US election result to hide the U turn. Even more of a shame for the kids in the October half term.
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Just a shame he felt he had to wait to the US election result to hide the U turn. Even more of a shame for the kids in the October half term.
They've got there chips and turkey twizzlers back so you should be happy or at least less grumpy
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Re: Tory MP quits government over refusal to extend free school meals

This is good news, though I suspect it's been done as he can't afford to have any more enemies than he needs to after his handling of the pandemic & a poll I posted says that if Brexit results in no deal, most of the public would blame Johnson.
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