Coronavirus

[Pierre]

it doesn't really make any difference now anyway.

People don't trust the politicians.

People don't trust the scientists. (the ones that made all those "accurate" predictions)

People don't trust the media.

Although there may have been a valid reason for the very first lockdown, as there was no vaccine and no one knew what to do. There was no good reason for subsequent lockdowns. The vaccines were on the way and other measures should have been implemented.

There's no way we'll see another lockdown in this country, (England) or even closure of certain businesses.

The scientists have cried wolf too many times and people now (the ones that have haven't been frightened into submission over the last two years) will just shrug their shoulders at news of another variant.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Do other countries do that, or just us?

Why don’t you Google it, and find out, rather than just asking the same question repeatedly?

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Suggest you go back and listen to your Tory chums when they spoke at the start of the pandemic regarding the lag to people dying

The only reason its losing credibility is because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

Comparing South Africas wave to ours is like comparing apples to oranges Due to demographics, of course you already knew that.

Let’s see where deaths are in 3-4 weeks, if they haven’t significantly increased I’ll apologise

So here we are, 4 weeks later.

[jonbxx]

I am in a really boring phone call so I decided to have a look at how we and other countries count COVID deaths. The UK uses the World Health Organisation International Classification of Diseases (ICD) scheme for registering deaths. Here is a nice map of what countries use the same system;



Here's a document from the WHO on how and when you should register COVID as a cause of death to differentiate between dying of and with COVID - https://www.who.int/classifications/...ID-19.pdf?ua=1

Originally Posted by spiderplant

It puts paid to the "I don't have any underlying conditions so I've got nothing to worry about" myth.

I've never heard of such a myth.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Why should the UK be different from the rest of the World?

Where did anyone say they should ?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Why don’t you Google it, and find out, rather than just asking the same question repeatedly?

It’s because I know the answer, and so do you, Hugh. No need to provide links when everyone knows the answer - in this case, that countries all have their own rules when it comes to counting Covid deaths, and this makes comparisons impossible.

https://www.who.int/data/stories/the...cess-mortality

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It’s because I know the answer, and so do you, Hugh. No need to provide links when everyone knows the answer - in this case, that countries all have their own rules when it comes to counting Covid deaths, and this makes comparisons impossible.

https://www.who.int/data/stories/the...cess-mortality

Strange - jonbxx’s post two posts above your proves that statement not to be congruent with actuality…

Originally Posted by jonbxx

I am in a really boring phone call so I decided to have a look at how we and other countries count COVID deaths. The UK uses the World Health Organisation International Classification of Diseases (ICD) scheme for registering deaths. Here is a nice map of what countries use the same system;



Here's a document from the WHO on how and when you should register COVID as a cause of death to differentiate between dying of and with COVID - https://www.who.int/classifications/...ID-19.pdf?ua=1

It shows that the U.K., USA, Canada, all of Europe, Russia, Australia, New Zealand, and many other countries are using the same system…

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Strange - jonbxx’s post two posts above your proves that statement not to be congruent with actuality…



It shows that the U.K., USA, Canada, all of Europe, Russia, Australia, New Zealand, and many other countries are using the same system…

If you read it, there is a clear link between respiratory disease and Covid, and I accept that everyone works on the same basis in terms of that. But I was answering a post that suggested we should register deaths as Covid if they were so infected but died due to diabetes.

I agree that sounds sensible, but my question was, do other countries do that? This document does not cover such a example.

Additionally, during the first wave, it was reported that some countries (I think one of them was Spain from memory) were only counting hospital deaths. I assume not only that this has now been put right, but also deaths in the community and in care homes during that period were added to the figures retrospectively.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Chris

So here we are, 4 weeks later.

BOOM! Headshot. Proceed to the next level.

I’m pretty sure the families of the 2,000 who died that week probably don’t feel like celebrating…

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

I’m pretty sure the families of the 2,000 who died that week probably don’t feel like celebrating…

I'm sure they didn't St Sanctimonious Hugh of the Cable Forum, I don't know any of them, they're probably not members of this site, they most likely wont read that post. That post that wasn't directed at any of them but rather the exchange between Chris and Mr Mistoffelees.

Hope that helps.

Rather be seen as sanctimonious than sociopathic…

One doesn't need to personally know someone to have empathy for their plight.

ymmv

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Rather be seen as sanctimonious than sociopathic…

One doesn't need to personally know someone to have empathy for their plight.

ymmv

So, to use your logic, we should never ever laugh, have fun or party ever again because there are always others who are sad.

Sorry, Hugh, you are on your own.

[daveeb]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

So, to use your logic, we should never ever laugh, have fun or party ever again because there are always others who are sad.

Sorry, Hugh, you are on your own.

He didn't say that or even imply it.


Not at all.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Rather be seen as sanctimonious than sociopathic…

One doesn't need to personally know someone to have empathy for their plight.

ymmv

If you're going to try and label me, try and do it right.

Sociopath: a person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behaviour

A post that I found amusing because one member (mrmistoffeelees) had forecasted many, many more deaths, based on no evidence, and in the process trying to insult the other member (Chris) .

Chris then posts factually that he was right and toffeelees was wrong, and I found that funny commented on it.

Nothing EXTREMELY ANTISOCIAL about that? N'est pas?

Sanctimonious making a show of being morally superior to other people

You decide to weigh in with you morally superior view, when my post wasn't even aimed at the people who had died

So in short, I am not a sociopath, but you are without a shadow of a doubt a sanctimonious bore.

Hope that helps

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Originally Posted by daveeb

He didn't say that or even imply it.


Not at all.

No, but according to Hugh, humour cannot be found in tragedy and to that:

1. yes it can.

2. that isn't even what I was doing, I wasn't even commenting on COVID or the deaths because of it. But Hugh is so eager nowadays to attack, he couldn't wait to jump in.