SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
17-02-2018, 19:55
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
For what my opinion is worth, the Hub 3 stays unless a legal surprise occurs. The cost of replacing a million Hub 3s or whatever is beyond VM's means.
The next hub would be for DOCSIS 3.1.
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17-02-2018, 21:02
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
For what my opinion is worth, the Hub 3 stays unless a legal surprise occurs. The cost of replacing a million Hub 3s or whatever is beyond VM's means.
The next hub would be for DOCSIS 3.1.
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They wont replace a million hubs, just the 1% who notice this issue would need replaced to begin with
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17-02-2018, 21:05
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
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Originally Posted by jb66
They wont replace a million hubs, just the 1% who notice this issue would need replaced to begin with
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And then the bandwagon rolls.
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17-02-2018, 22:17
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
I would think that the vast majority of VM BB users have no idea what a Hub3 is.
They just know they have a black box that provides their internet, and it seems to work just fine.
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18-02-2018, 00:13
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
Apart from the wireless dropping upstairs everytime u break wind. Thats why i bought my own router.
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18-02-2018, 14:14
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
What are people saying about their gaming experience on the new firmware?
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there wasn't an issue before and the new firmware makes no difference either way and nor should it given the technical explanation which has been provided.
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I hope they have a Hub4 modem in the pipeline that doesn't have this issue and i can get on a trial.
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and like previous shubs, it will come with a whole host of problems which we'll wait 2 years and numerous updates for them to fix.
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18-02-2018, 15:08
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
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there wasn't an issue before and the new firmware makes no difference either way and nor should it given the technical explanation which has been provided.
and like previous shubs, it will come with a whole host of problems which we'll wait 2 years and numerous updates for them to fix.
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So true, i never had an issue with the Hub3 other than the TBB looking rather yellow.
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18-02-2018, 16:30
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
So true, i never had an issue with the Hub3 other than the TBB looking rather yellow.
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I’ve got numerous Consoles, Laptops, Smart Speakers and a NAS // Plex Server connected to my Hub3 and they run faultless... I get pretty good Wi-Fi range aswell!
(I disconnected my Netgear R7800 // Linksys WRT3200acm because they were a waste of electricity when the Hub3 does exactly the same job!)
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18-02-2018, 17:02
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
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Originally Posted by SimonB79
I’ve got numerous Consoles, Laptops, Smart Speakers and a NAS // Plex Server connected to my Hub3 and they run faultless... I get pretty good Wi-Fi range aswell!
(I disconnected my Netgear R7800 // Linksys WRT3200acm because they were a waste of electricity when the Hub3 does exactly the same job!)
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The majority of 'normal' users won't have an issue with the Hub3 it does its intended purpose to get them on the internet wired/wireless, it is just users that want to play around with network settings or increase the wireless range that are not happy with it, although some gamers have said they have issue with it but other gamers say it is fine but that is the case for most ISP provided kit in my opinion.
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18-02-2018, 21:56
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
My SH3 is awful at wireless. If one of us eats beans and lets rip the wireless dies on its backside.
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19-02-2018, 08:58
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
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Originally Posted by General Maximus
and like previous shubs, it will come with a whole host of problems which we'll wait 2 years and numerous updates for them to fix.
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I'd be shocked of the Hub 4.0 isn't DOCSIS3.1 and I'd be even more shocked if that didn't cause it to have even more problems than usual, even before the 3.1 upgrades to the network are deployed.
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19-02-2018, 09:34
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
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Originally Posted by SnoopZ
The majority of 'normal' users won't have an issue with the Hub3 it does its intended purpose to get them on the internet wired/wireless, it is just users that want to play around with network settings or increase the wireless range that are not happy with it, although some gamers have said they have issue with it but other gamers say it is fine but that is the case for most ISP provided kit in my opinion.
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I slightly disagree. I agree that that is pretty much the current state of affairs atm (which is ok) but it wasn't when it came out. Remember they had those hourly disconnects if you were connected to a certain brand of UBR?
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I'd be shocked of the Hub 4.0 isn't DOCSIS3.1 and I'd be even more shocked if that didn't cause it to have even more problems than usual, even before the 3.1 upgrades to the network are deployed.
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yup. The most frustrating thing for me though is the stinky attitude. I am very laid back and forgiving if something is a genuine mistake or happened by accident however VM seem to make bad decisions on purpose and their approach is money first and customers second. They make each shub on the cheap, do laughable trials, ignore errors/bugs/feedback and then send it out to the general customer base knowing it doesn't do what it needs to, sometimes even as a necessity, and if your connection doesn't work then who cares. I hate being screwed over and I would have switched isp years ago out of principle, the only saving grace is modem mode. I can't be doing with uncertainty and sitting down for a game thinking "am I going to get through this or is my shub going to have a spazz fit and my connection drop?"
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19-02-2018, 11:57
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
I remember the Superhub 1 didn't even have a modem mode when it first came out and they only put it in when loads of customers complained.
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19-02-2018, 22:10
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
What is the best arris gateway at the moment, probably will be based on that
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19-02-2018, 22:11
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Re: SHUB3 Puma Bug - TBB BQM Improvement
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9.1.116V Thats my version
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9.1.116V That is still my version too, even after a reboot.
Are we clear on this? Is 9.1.116.603 a trial firmware or is it being rolled out?
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