Tivo V6 : RF Modulator with the V6

[DeanRandall]

With the old TiVo box, this set up was working on channel 52, so I started there but have also gone up and down the channel list from around 20 to 70. No difference unfortunately.

[nomadking]

If it's displaying the EPG, menus etc then it's tuned to the correct channel.

The link to a VM forum article that I gave in post #13 about somebody who had similar problems, and provides a possible solution. Basically getting around the HDCP compatibility issue by removing the HDCP altogether. Whether that splitter still works in that way and hasn't been redesigned to be fully HDMI/HDCP compliant is another matter.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by DeanRandall

a black screen but the menus working

Now that actually is HDCP failure. The video gets disabled but the menus still display.

Originally Posted by nomadking

If it's displaying the EPG, menus etc then it's tuned to the correct channel.

No, he said that his main (locally-connected) TV showed menus but no video.

I still have a theory that the modulator may be broken.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by spiderplant

Now that actually is HDCP failure. The video gets disabled but the menus still display.

No, he said that his main (locally-connected) TV showed menus but no video.

I still have a theory that the modulator may be broken.

The only device involved with the locally connected Tv is the splitter. As that is showing HDCP problems, then the splitter is the issue. A fault with the modulator won't cause that. As the sound is getting through to the other TVs the modulator is tuned correctly.

Both outputs from the splitter have to be the same. If the HDMI-ScART converter causes conflict for the splitter, then both outputs will be HDCP blocked affecting the TV.

A splitter that removes HDCP might be the solution. I've ordered a couple of the ones in the VM forum article I linked to, so later today I should be able to confirm if they remove the HDCP. At £13 they are worth a punt. I don't have a V6 or the rest of your setup, so I can't check those aspects.

[DeanRandall]

So, I spent some time this morning and removed the splitter from the equation, connecting the V6 box directly to the HDMI to Scart adapater, which was then connected to the modulator etc...

Success, managed to get both audio and picture on the other TVs around the house!

Adding the splitter back in and as expected, menus and audio seemed to work but no actual picture.

Connecting the V6 to the splitter, then the splitter to the local TV and nothing else also seems work OK, so I assume its just the fact that there are too many HDMI versions in the complete chain that the signal just does not like.

Learning a bit as I go here, but that seems to suggest that either I need a HDMI splitter that works with 1.3, or a HDMI to Scart solution that works with 1.4?

[spiderplant]

But in post 1 you said "V6 > HDMI Splitter > HDMI to Scart > Scart into TV" worked, which suggests the splitter is fine. Is that not the case?

[DeanRandall]

I did indeed say that and while it wasn't something I specifically tested today, a couple of weekends ago that did actually work.

In fairness, I can't remember whether I had the local TV plugged into the other HDMI port on the splitter in that situation. Based on what I've learnt over the past few days, probably not.

This is why I needed to ask for help, as I've gone round in circles trying out all sorts, but nothing was making sense.

[Skie]

There are HDMI splitters that strip HDCP out of the equation available on amazon and various other places, the technology only exists to make it a nightmare for legitimate consumers and has utterly no effect on the ability of people to copy content.

[DeanRandall]

Indeed Skie. I believe Nomadking was going to be testing a splitter that was reported to do that. I can only but assume the one I've got does not do that, of course, they don't really tell you either way when you are looking at their descriptions when buying.