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Old 15-07-2019, 15:22   #91
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

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That just it, he couldn't know anything. Which is why his comments are biased opinion, just as others at the time said exactly the same sort of thing. Those others certainly didn't know anything. It would not have been pertinent to the role of Ambassador to know anything of that nature. Let's face it, if Iran was previously determined to get weapon grade Uranium, that determination wouldn't suddenly stop.



If he had said something like "I'm puzzled by the President's decision, considering what we know for certain.", that would have been a different matter.

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So what inside FACTS did he know and express?
Can't discuss it he's already declared "end of"
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Old 15-07-2019, 15:26   #92
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

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Can't discuss it he's already declared "end of"
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Old 15-07-2019, 15:41   #93
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

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Not sure you're correct there. If he knew nothing about Iran how could he advise on the US stance and policy going forward.


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Chris is so right here. Anyone who thinks the US ambassador should not be frank and candid with his/her Executive is living in cloud cuckoo land.

That is it. End Of. Any objections to what he said are just down to the political prejudices of the author.
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Old 15-07-2019, 15:59   #94
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

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FACTS? What acronym is this? Found this, may help :

https://www.acronymfinder.com/FACTS.html

I quite like:



seems appropriate ..

Seriously, you think you are able to objectively question that he does and does not know?
Do you know what he does or doesn't know? Of course not, therefore you cannot criticise me. At least my comments are based upon a reasonable conclusion. There would be absolutely no need for him to know anything on the matter. Any discussions would be at a much higher level than an ambassador.

Again, is there ANY reference in his comments to knowing or not knowing something specific in relation to the matter on which he based his opinion.

In the past, examiners said that Israel didn't have nuclear programme, when it was right under their feet, underground on a site they visited.
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Do you know what he does or doesn't know? Of course not, therefore you cannot criticise me. At least my comments are based upon a reasonable conclusion. There would be absolutely no need for him to know anything on the matter. Any discussions would be at a much higher level than an ambassador.

Again, is there ANY reference in his comments to knowing or not knowing something specific in relation to the matter on which he based his opinion.

In the past, examiners said that Israel didn't have nuclear programme, when it was right under their feet, underground on a site they visited.
You do realise that an ambassador is a country's highest resident representative, don't you?

They are privy to all relevant information that pertains to the relationship between the two countries (and any other countries that may impact/affect that relationship), including Top Secret, UK Eyes Only, and Secret Codeword information, as well as having access to information from our "dark side" sources (GCHQ, the MIs, etc.).

He would have been briefed on the Iran situation, as it could affect US/UK relations.
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

Reading some of the posts on this thread, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Thank you Chris and Hugh for adding a dose of reality to it.
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Re: UK ambassador to the USA resigns over leaked cables

I haven't used this little chap for some time..but it fits.

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