Will Scotland Leave the UK?

[greeninferno]

Originally Posted by Jimi

Sorry Stephen,you've been brainwashed,it can happen tae anyone.

For as far back as I can remember,Scottish viewers have been robbed,er,I mean short changed by the EBC,we get very little in return for paying the same amount of license fee as the rest of the UK does,a bit like oil come tae think about it.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Ar...trategy-Review

You think the money that BBC Scotland receives just now is well spent and an indication it should receive more?

[Stephen]

Well my point was that BBC Scotland produces a lot of good TV and radio programs .

There is no rip off going on. You pay the licence to watch live TV not just the BBC.

[Jimi]

Originally Posted by greeninferno

You think the money that BBC Scotland receives just now is well spent and an indication it should receive more?

No I don't,it should receive much more than what it gets imo.
Try watching Sportscene on a Sunday night,our weekly program is nothing short of a joke,6 SPFL games,each given a sum of 5 mins and 15 secs,dreadful,my wife watches River City which tae be fair has good acting,Shetland looks promising,Rab C Nesbitt will always be funny,that's about it.

Originally Posted by Stephen

Well my point was that BBC Scotland produces a lot of good TV and radio programs .

There is no rip off going on. You pay the licence to watch live TV not just the BBC.

I'll be pan breid by the time the TV license is finally done away with,it should have happened years ago,adverts will be the way forward and hopefully those thieves robbing the punters will be a thing of the past,the top brass are raking in a fortune and nothing is being done about it.

[Stephen]

Well having money doesn't relate to a program being poor to be honest.

BBC Scotland has plenty of money. BBC Alba is a Scottish channel paid for by that money too.

There is no one being ripped off though as you still get all the channels the rest of the UK gets.

So if we become independent how will the Scottish Broadcasting service fund itself?

Originally Posted by Jimi

It's not often yer right but yer wrong again......http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_...e_Championship

Which club finished top?
SCOTLAND !!!

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One program you managed tae tell me about,can you make it tae ten?
Look at the amount of rubbish the EBC makes,the only two decent program's they do make are MOTD and Question Time,and the MOTD presenters are obscenely overpaid for what they do in such short time.

Two things from your link...

thus becoming "World Champions" in the words of many enthusiastic Scottish supporters...

....The "World Champions" idea has since taken more tangible form in the Unofficial Football World Championships.

but not in anyone else's.....

So basically it was made up at the time.......

Just saying stuff doesn't make it true (btw, you may wish to inform Wee Eck of that...).

The contest was also important as it formed the first half of the qualifying stages for the 1968 UEFA European Football Championship, a competition England would eventually qualify for in the following 1968 British Home Championship and reach the semi-finals, ultimately securing third position overall.

[Jimi]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Well having money doesn't relate to a program being poor to be honest.

BBC Scotland has plenty of money. BBC Alba is a Scottish channel paid for by that money too.

There is no one being ripped off though as you still get all the channels the rest of the UK gets.

So if we become independent how will the Scottish Broadcasting service fund itself?

Stephen,yer a hard nut tae crack,fair tae you for trying.
All I'm asking is that we get a decent return for our money,surely that's not too hard tae ask for.

Oh by the way......http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk...-debate-polls/

I'm sure someone will come on and reply "Oh but that's a Scottish poll."
It's a business poll,and at the end of the day it's Scottish companies who can sway the Doubting Thomas's.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Two things from your link... but not in anyone else's.....

So basically it was made up at the time.......

Just saying stuff doesn't make it true (btw, you may wish to inform Wee Eck of that...).

Hugh,and for anyone else for that matter, look up Wiki,type in "Results between Scotland and England in Home Internationals."
You'd be amazed at just how well we've done since the first ever game in the 19th century.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Jimi

I'm sure someone will come on and reply "Oh but that's a Scottish poll."
It's a business poll,and at the end of the day it's Scottish companies who can sway the Doubting Thomas's.

Hmmm, a straw poll from an unashamedly pro-yes campaign site. Well that's got me convinced enough to slap on the blue face paint and and jump into the great unknown of an independent Scotland.

[Mr Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Jimi

Oh by the way......http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk...-debate-polls/

I'm sure someone will come on and reply "Oh but that's a Scottish poll."
It's a business poll,and at the end of the day it's Scottish companies who can sway the Doubting Thomas's.

Again you post links to a site that is just giving OPINIONS Jimi. That it's run by yes campaigners is surely a coincidence as well is it?. One bit in the "debate" says "He warned Scots with the usual scare-stories, regurgitating as “fact” all the previously debunked nonsense, including the banking bailout, EU membership, joining the Euro and the currency union with rUK". All OPINIONS again. Dismissing stuff as "Debunked nonsense" is just the yes campaigners refusing to believe what they've been told over and over again. Replace the yes logo with this picture. It's far more suitable.

Originally Posted by Jimi

Stephen,yer a hard nut tae crack,fair tae you for trying.
All I'm asking is that we get a decent return for our money,surely that's not too hard tae ask for.

Oh by the way......http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk...-debate-polls/

I'm sure someone will come on and reply "Oh but that's a Scottish poll."
It's a business poll,and at the end of the day it's Scottish companies who can sway the Doubting Thomas's.

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Hugh,and for anyone else for that matter, look up Wiki,type in "Results between Scotland and England in Home Internationals."
You'd be amazed at just how well we've done since the first ever game in the 19th century.

Strange how you've ignored my previous fact (not opinion, not made up wish fulfilment, but fact) that you picked out the only game Scotland won against England in a decade...

And if we look at Scotland vs England Stats, it shows that in all matches Scotland have won 41, lost 46, drawn 24, and in competition matches, they have won 2, lost 4, drawn 1.

Well done, indeed......

(Oh, I forgot - in your world, that means you've really won more..... )

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Strange how you've ignored my previous fact (not opinion, not made up wish fulfilment, but fact) that you picked out the only game Scotland won against England in a decade...

And if we look at Scotland vs England Stats, it shows that in all matches Scotland have won 41, lost 46, drawn 24, and in competition matches, they have won 2, lost 4, drawn 1.

Well done, indeed......

(Oh, I forgot - in your world, that means you've really won more..... )

Wasn't one of those competitive wins part of a two legged play of which they won 1-0 after losing the first leg 2-0 so that win was pretty meaningless to.

Stop being a bully.......

Since World War II, England have dominated, winning 27 of the 48 games, with Scotland winning 12.

I am Scottish, born and bred, but facts are facts - making stuff up, cherry-picking isolated things out of context, and playing the victim card just weakens any valid arguments the Yes campaign may have...

[spreadsheet]

those loyalists in northern Ireland may face a bit of a dilemma?

who will they be loyal to?

To be honest I'm getting sick and tired of this issue I'm tired of the lunacy coming from the SNP and their supporters which seems to have a very nasty "anti English" streak to it to hide the fact they haven't thought out much less properly planned what to do if they won the vote. Way I see it at the minute is Salmond knows he has screwed up and is getting his excuses prepared. I love Scotland and most of it's people (sorry have experienced hatred on a trip before) and I find this whole debate to have done nothing but humiliate and degrade a great country and it's people who deserve a lot more.

[Jimi]

I give up,its like The Alamo and Zulu war rolled intae one against you guys,hold on a minute till I reload my catapult.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

To be honest I'm getting sick and tired of this issue I'm tired of the lunacy coming from the SNP and their supporters which seems to have a very nasty "anti English" streak to it to hide the fact they haven't thought out much less properly planned what to do if they won the vote. Way I see it at the minute is Salmond knows he has screwed up and is getting his excuses prepared. I love Scotland and most of it's people (sorry have experienced hatred on a trip before) and I find this whole debate to have done nothing but humiliate and degrade a great country and it's people who deserve a lot more.

Och,its only a friendly game,just wait until I get my 10,000 supporters tae come on this website then ye'll know all about it,eh !!!

[Jimi]

http://youtu.be/h6GsEKrCvgw

Sit back and imagine,just for a while,that you are open minded,then watch Tommy Sheridan.
Before shouting 'Oh,he's nothing but a rabble rouser',just watch it,then you'll all understand why Scotland want's its Independence.