07-09-2022, 10:48
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Re: Pronouns
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It effects language and ultimately society.
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Were you not aware that language evolves with the times?
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Language is important, so is the right to say what is implicitly true, even if it upsets some people.
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As long as it complies with Laws and decency I support your right to say what you think is the truth.
But as you well know, just because you have an opinion does not mean you have to share it with the world.
In case you've forgotten, I disagree that there are more than 2 genders.
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But if a person wants you to say there is no God, would you comply to please them? Not going to hurt you is it?
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Can you give me an example of a scenario where someone would require me to say that?
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07-09-2022, 10:51
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Re: Pronouns
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Can you give me an example of a scenario where someone would require me to say that?
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I sure you know exactly the point I'm trying to make. You want me to agree and call someone They/Them because it doesn't hurt to do so. But I don't believe in it. So why should I.
So I put it to you, answer my question. One in which we already know the answer. It's the same.
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07-09-2022, 10:53
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Re: Pronouns
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I sure you know exactly the point I'm trying to make. You want me to agree and call someone They/Them because it doesn't hurt to do so. But I don't believe in it. So why should I.
So I put it to you, answer my question. One in which we already know the answer. It's the same.
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Oh you want me to answer YOUR question when you've been ignoring mine.
Outstanding.
I can't give a hypothetical answer to a question from a scenario that isn't going to happen.
You however could very well be in a situation where someone you know or around you asks you to use their chosen pronoun.
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07-09-2022, 10:57
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Re: Pronouns
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Oh you want me to answer YOUR question when you've been ignoring mine.
Outstanding.
I can't give a hypothetical answer to a question from a scenario that isn't going to happen.
You however could very well be in a situation where someone you know or around you asks you to use their chosen pronoun.
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Well there we have it. I've been clear but you don't accept it. That's fine. As for ignoring your questions the answers are all there, you just ignored most of mine.
I have nothing left to add to this topic, everything I've said it pretty clear enough for anyone else. No point in going round in circles. I'm moot. 
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07-09-2022, 11:01
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Re: Pronouns
Great cop-out
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07-09-2022, 11:02
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Re: Pronouns
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Great cop-out |
Not at all. I know when it's going nowhere and I'm not falling for your agenda. If you want to carry it on via PM, fine by me. No point in wasting others reading time on here with this.
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07-09-2022, 11:10
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Re: Pronouns
My only agenda was to unsuccessfully get you to answer my questions.
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07-09-2022, 11:52
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Re: Pronouns
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Well thank the Lord it wouldn’t be taught that way.
If I told you a story about my neighbour but didn’t tell you the sex/gender which pronoun would you use for this person?
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Simples. He/she.
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07-09-2022, 11:57
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Re: Pronouns
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Simples. He/she.
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Which is clumsy and grammatically sub-optimal.
The efficient and perfectly acceptable way to refer to someone of unknown sex is, and always has been, “they”. You do your arguments no favours at all with your obsessive resistance to this one very minor thing.
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07-09-2022, 12:01
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Re: Pronouns
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Simples. He/she.
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Which one though?
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Which is clumsy and grammatically sub-optimal.
The efficient and perfectly acceptable way to refer to someone of unknown sex is, and always has been, “they”. You do your arguments no favours at all with your obsessive resistance to this one very minor thing.
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07-09-2022, 14:24
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Re: Pronouns
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Which is clumsy and grammatically sub-optimal.
The efficient and perfectly acceptable way to refer to someone of unknown sex is, and always has been, “they”. You do your arguments no favours at all with your obsessive resistance to this one very minor thing.
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Yes, but it grates because it is ungrammatical.
However, that’s what I do to keep the peace.
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07-09-2022, 14:46
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Re: Pronouns
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Which one though?:
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"He/she".
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07-09-2022, 14:49
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Re: Pronouns
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Confusing kids with this pronoun tripe is total shite.
English, Maths and creative stuff is what schools should be teaching.
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Spot on.
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Prove it.
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07-09-2022, 14:52
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Re: Pronouns
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"He/she".
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Which one would you use given you don’t know my neighbour’s gender?
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07-09-2022, 14:52
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Re: Pronouns
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Yes, but it grates because it is ungrammatical.
However, that’s what I do to keep the peace.
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It is not ungrammatical. On the contrary it is correct English grammar and has been since time immemorial. It is not an invention of radical gender campaigners.
I refer you to Oxford, which has traced the earliest known use of “they” as a singular pronoun where sex is unknown to the year 1375.
https://public.oed.com/blog/a-brief-...singular-they/
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