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Old 06-04-2022, 16:58   #1831
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So the talk and messaging to people about "if you break lockdown it could kill your granny" was a huge leap?



They've always been clear the rules were to save lives and so the other side of that coin is without sticking to them you were potentially costing lives...


We know people don't often react as well to the "use your common sense" line as opposed to "you must stay at home except for ..." which is exactly why they decided to engage with psychologists to scare people into restrictions (which they now retrospectively say wasn't needed and was a bad thing) and the whole "it could cost lives if you don't" messaging was definitely a part of it.
One the government of all parties would be very happy if all the population died before reaching pensionable age . As would all insurance companies. Old age is only good business wise for private service providers .
Two the whole message was about keeping people out of hospital ,therefore was about saving money for the state
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Old 06-04-2022, 18:32   #1832
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Tesco and Lidl no longer offer free hand sanitiser or sprays to disinfect the trolley handles at the entrance to its stores.

I only saw 3 other people wearing masks in Tesco, and I was the only one masked in Lidl. Schoolkids coughing and sneezing in Lidl, so I left and came back later, armed with my bottle of soapy water.

I think quite quickly after COVID started we discovered it doesn't really survive long, if at all, on surfaces. Maybe hands because of how constant they can be within range of our mouths but otherwise the disinfected surfaces was more about security theatre - making people feel safe - than actually stopping the spread.

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There were only about 50-60% wearing masks in the shops in Glasgow last weekend and they’re still legally required until 18 April. I’m not sure why you’re even bothering to check what’s happening around you in your neck of the woods - after 2 years, I don’t think many people have an appetite to do any more than they have to (and in Scotland the appetite is clearly to do less).

If it causes a particular issue for you, you’re going to have to just stick to quiet periods to do your shopping.
Almost non-existent in London. People stopped wearing masks even when they were a requirement of TFL. It's just done now.
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Old 06-04-2022, 19:04   #1833
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I think quite quickly after COVID started we discovered it doesn't really survive long, if at all, on surfaces. Maybe hands because of how constant they can be within range of our mouths but otherwise the disinfected surfaces was more about security theatre - making people feel safe - than actually stopping the spread.



Almost non-existent in London. People stopped wearing masks even when they were a requirement of TFL. It's just done now.
I think a fair number chose not to comply were exempt from wearing one when they decided to bring them back in for Omicron, which initially was just shops and PT but then extended to basically all indoor settings, but had made little apparent difference before, and cases still went up with them on.


The evidence is somewhat weak because the theory behind it assumes the virus particles are large enough to be trapped in the mask.


Also with the number who wear them but don't clean them, reuse disposable masks, don't take them off properly, don't wash/sanitise hands when using the mask, it kind of almost negates the benefit in these instances.


Let's be fair a large amount of the mask hype is visual and fear, more theatre really. It is much better testing and staying home if you're ill but the first isn't really an option now either.


It's high time we get back to normal, cases, hospitalisations and deaths aren't causing people to die on hospital corridor trolleys and stuff like we were led to believe could happen at the start (and which was a tangible fear if we did nothing because italy). Now we have vaccines, therapeutics and more understanding how to treat and prevent it, it's much different.
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Old 06-04-2022, 20:56   #1834
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Re: Coronavirus

Yes, I think the biggest thing is people have had some exposure to the virus either from the vaccine or previous infection so it is a different world.
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Old 14-04-2022, 18:41   #1835
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Re: Coronavirus

With the Downing Street parties and Ukraine holding the headlines, our eyes are off the ball concerning UK covid-19 deaths.

So I suppose we "just have to live with it" and ignore the rising deaths, just as we do with 'flu.
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Old 14-04-2022, 19:08   #1836
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With the Downing Street parties and Ukraine holding the headlines, our eyes are off the ball concerning UK covid-19 deaths.

So I suppose we "just have to live with it" and ignore the rising deaths, just as we do with 'flu.
Our eyes aren’t “off the ball” the only difference is that the media aren’t leading with it and sensationalising it.

And yes, we have to live it. Vaccine’s are available to anyone in this country that wants one.
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Old 14-04-2022, 19:11   #1837
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Re: Coronavirus

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With the Downing Street parties and Ukraine holding the headlines, our eyes are off the ball concerning UK covid-19 deaths.

So I suppose we "just have to live with it" and ignore the rising deaths, just as we do with 'flu.
7-day daily average is now 350, equal to 127,000 per year. You can forget the new case figures. Since free testing was pulled, most people who have Covid will not be testing and therefore not registering the result with the authorities.

We need to remain vigilant especially as the 3rd booster efficacy is now waning.
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I am, I’m always looking behind me, checking around corners, handing out flyers etc.
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Re: Coronavirus

I'm still doing my bit and offering tin foil hats to those wearing FFP2s in the street...
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I'm still doing my bit and offering tin foil hats to those wearing FFP2s in the street...
Well, you do have a very large collection of them…
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Re: Coronavirus

Discharging hospital patients to care homes 'unlawful'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-61227709
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Discharging hospital patients to care homes 'unlawful'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-61227709
I'm sure it's not "protective ring" Matts fault though, definitely the care home staff / public / Public Health England and the NHS at fault. And he definitely wasn't warned about the problem on multiple occasions
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Link for Coronavirus Statistics updated daily.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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