U.S, UK and France Launch Missile Strikes in Syria - Page 11

**Mick** · 17-04-2018, 13:31

Corbyn is just a bad leader. He lacks redeeming qualities as a leader. He isn’t leadership savvy. Theresa May qualities are lacking also. But out of the choice of the two, May clearly wins.

Corbyn would plunder this country in to one huge shithole. He would abolish the Monachy. Drive up the National Dept and he would scrap Trident, leaving us severely defenceless, he would insult the U.S or snub them, there goes our key ally. He would hand Gilbralta back to Spain, let Argentina take the Falklands.

Corbyn is a dangerous man, not this nice luvvy few portray him as. The Putin appeasers mission would be complete when he finally depletes democracy.

tweetiepooh · 18-04-2018, 11:06

Me thinks an issue today is not how competent a leader is but how competent they appear to be, especially on the media.

Mrs May and her cabinet could (and do) have information we don't and may needed to act more swiftly than could be done with a recall of parliament. They fulfilled the legal requirement and acted in coordination with our allies. Her issue then is how to communicate that without "leaking" any secrets and not appearing to be either weak (at the beck and call of the US) or overly aggressive or indecisive or arrogant.

We elect our leaders and give them certain powers and expect them to use them. If we agree with them there isn't too much of a problem but if we don't we think they shouldn't use those powers without much discussion first.

**Mick** · 18-04-2018, 12:18

BREAKING: Head if the Organisation for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons says the UN Security Team has been shot at in Douma in Syria.

Carth · 18-04-2018, 15:29

Nothing unexpected there . . .

Uncle Peter · 21-04-2018, 20:38

Interesting summary here in Air Force Magazine about the strike package used by the US element.

They got to try out their shiny new(ish) JASSM stealthy cruise missiles: 19 of them which would have been launched well within Syrian/Russian air defence range. Not just a case of flinging Tomahawks out of a destroyer or submarine from a safe distance.

**Damien** · 09-10-2019, 21:27

The U.S has pulled out of Syria. Turkey are moving in and probably going after the Kurds who are our allies. Those Kurd areas were also protecting prisoners from ISIS who might now escape.

Maybe we should have intervened.....

pip08456 · 09-10-2019, 21:31

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Originally Posted by Damien

The U.S has pulled out of Syria. Turkey are moving in and probably going after the Kurds who are our allies. Those Kurd areas were also protecting prisoners from ISIS who might now escape.

Maybe we should have intervened.....

Already started.

Turkey unleashes airstrikes against Kurds in north-east Syria

Stephen · 09-10-2019, 21:54

Well up till yesterday the Kurds were also allies of the US, but Trump in his infinite Wisdom has turned his back on them. So anything that happens now will be his doing.

TheDaddy · 10-10-2019, 07:02

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Originally Posted by Damien

The U.S has pulled out of Syria. Turkey are moving in and probably going after the Kurds who are our allies. Those Kurd areas were also protecting prisoners from ISIS who might now escape.

Maybe we should have intervened.....

Escape into Europe according to Donny...

**Hugh** · 10-10-2019, 07:46

Why should the USA help the Kurds? - the Kurds "didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy"".

TheDaddy · 10-10-2019, 07:48

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Why should the USA help the Kurds? - the Kurds "didn't help us in the Second World War, they didn't help us with Normandy"".

In much the same way donny bonespur didn't help out in Vietnam I guess, good job he likes the Kurds though, imagine how screwed they'd be if he disliked them

Carth · 10-10-2019, 08:50

Neither Syria or Turkey have significant oil resources, why else would the USA get involved

Taf · 10-10-2019, 13:06

The Kurds, specifically the PKK, have been a painful and expensive thorn in the side of Turkey since 1978. 40,000+ are recorded killed in the conflict which is based on the PKK's fight for an independant state. A state which would also take parts of Syria, Iran and Iraq, right down to the Persian Gulf. The USA armed them against Saddam Hussein, but the Kurds passed weapons amongst themselves, and many were turned against Turkey.

The US airbase at Incirlik, Turkey, is one of vital importance to air power in the Middle East. This is why Trump and Erdogan have danced around each other delicately. Until now.

Uncle Peter · 10-10-2019, 19:08

This is not a good move. The Kurds aren't going away just as the Taliban aren't going away in Afghanistan so any claim that a "safe zone" can be created is complete hogwash. Erdogan will just be drawing Turkey deeper into a conflict which will never be resolved: Another endless war to coin a phrase from Trump.

Erdogan's behaviour leaves the impression that he sees himself as the self proclaimed Sultan of a new Caliphate, picking up where his Ottoman forebears left off: Wreaking havoc in the near/middle east, the Balkans and South East Europe.... until they got their arses handed to them at the gates of Vienna.

Anyway Erdogan has upset the Israelis now and Netanyahu has pledged "humanitarian" assistance to the Kurds so good luck with that down there.

daveeb · 10-10-2019, 19:37

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

In much the same way donny bonespur didn't help out in Vietnam I guess, good job he likes the Kurds though, imagine how screwed they'd be if he disliked them

I think in his boundless wisdom he was thinking of curd.