Updated: 78 Year old pensioner cleared of killing burglar - Page 3

Stephen · 06-04-2018, 10:05

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

He killed an intruder Stephen a person he did not invite into his home or want and if i live long enough to be 78 i am taking the quickest method to do maximum damage including killing on someone half my age who gets the advantage with every moment the struggle goes on. Not every life is precious some are out and out **** that the worlds better off without and two men who target pensioners fit right into that group. This pensioner shouldn't be charged with any offence and the wailing brigade with their shouts of "but someone was killed" need to shutup and go find something worth more then this to rail against or are we saying our pensioners are fair game for gutless ****.

He killed someone, that is a crime. Perhaps if he had just hurt him or incapacitated him it would of course be a different story.

Unless we know the full story its hard to judge. If he just heard a noise and went to investigate and saw someone in the room and stabbed them or something then that is not one. However if the intruder threatened him in some waysor was trying to harm him then yes self defense would be an acceptable claim.

**Damien** · 06-04-2018, 10:07

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

He killed an intruder Stephen a person he did not invite into his home or want and if i live long enough to be 78 i am taking the quickest method to do maximum damage including killing on someone half my age who gets the advantage with every moment the struggle goes on. Not every life is precious some are out and out **** that the worlds better off without and two men who target pensioners fit right into that group. This pensioner shouldn't be charged with any offence and the wailing brigade with their shouts of "but someone was killed" need to shutup and go find something worth more then this to rail against or are we saying our pensioners are fair game for gutless ****.

The police need to investigate to be sure that is what happened is all.

Stephen · 06-04-2018, 11:34

So what every pensioner is allowed to kill an intruder in the home an get away with it?

Even if there is no evidence that their lives may have been in danger?

OLD BOY · 06-04-2018, 18:31

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Originally Posted by Stephen

So what every pensioner is allowed to kill an intruder in the home an get away with it?

Even if there is no evidence that their lives may have been in danger?

Yes, they should in my opinion. You only get one chance in a situation like this. If you don't take it, you might be the one ending up being hurt, tortured or killed.

It is not a crime to do what this pensioner did. He should be given a medal.

nomadking · 06-04-2018, 18:41

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A man arrested on suspicion of murdering a suspected burglar has been released without charge.
Richard Osborn-Brooks discovered two intruders at his home in South Park Crescent Hither Green, south-east London, on Wednesday.

**Damien** · 06-04-2018, 18:43

The police have confirmed he will face no further charges.

**Mick** · 06-04-2018, 18:54

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Originally Posted by Stephen

So what every pensioner is allowed to kill an intruder in the home an get away with it?

Even if there is no evidence that their lives may have been in danger?

Why not?

The intruder takes the risk of entering someones property at their own peril. Noone could possibly know if their life is in danger, so I am perplexed how one can provide evidence when someone is in your home, the situation is dynamic and can go one of several ways...

1) They gain entry to rob and steal you, they flee when they see you....

2) They gain entry, but you disturb them, they turn violent and try to harm or kill you.

3) I would say those who are carrying weapons, or don't carry weapons but use items in your house likes knives and stabbing weapons to harm you.

In situations 2 and 3, I would say you have the right to defend yourself and your loved ones, if necessary to save ones own life and that of others, kill them instead.

From the reports, this dead scumbag, was a serial offender, seemed to target frail older people as a hobby. He was a coward and it's one less oxygen thief roaming around preying on the vulnerable. Good riddance IMO.

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Originally Posted by Damien

The police have confirmed he will face no further charges.

Hallelujah : Common sense prevails at last!

Mr K · 06-04-2018, 19:48

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Originally Posted by Mick

Hallelujah : Common sense prevails at last!

Not really, just the police investigating a death as they should. Storm in a tabloid tea cup.

RichardCoulter · 06-04-2018, 20:14

Excellent news.

It was pretty galling to see the family of the deceased saying how he was such a nice person and whining that the pensioner had been released on bail.

I understand that the police had to investigate, but there should be a better way of doing it than arresting and bailing a pensioner who was only protecting his disabled wife, himself and his home from intruders.

Let's hope that this outcome makes burglars think twice, particularly those who think that the vulnerable in society are always easy pickings.

**Mick** · 06-04-2018, 20:17

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Not really, just the police investigating a death as they should. Storm in a tabloid tea cup.

Mainstream TV news networks is not Tabloids. It was in the news for all the wrong reasons.

I disagree and millions of other sensible Brits do. It should not have been the case that the pensioner was arrested - there should be a law, you enter a house to steal, you put your life at risk.

Mr K · 06-04-2018, 20:26

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Mainstream TV news networks is not Tabloids. It was in the news for all the wrong reasons.

I disagree and millions of other sensible Brits do. It should not have been the case that the pensioner was arrested - there should be a law, you enter a house to steal, you put your life at risk.

If there's a death and someone is responsible, they need to be arrested until the situation is verified. The fact that it's a house break in and he's pensioner is irrelevant. Hope he recovers from this but the police have done nothing wrong.

**Mick** · 06-04-2018, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Mr K

If there's a death and someone is responsible, they need to be arrested until the situation is verified. The fact that it's a house break in and he's pensioner is irrelevant. Hope he recovers from this but the police have done nothing wrong.

I never said they had!

I said the law should change to reflect the risk involved in trying to steal from someone else, in their own property.

I maintain the pensioner should never have been arrested. The trouble came to him and well, the scumbag he killed was half this pensioners age.

nomadking · 06-04-2018, 20:36

They would've had to arrest him in order to ask the questions and in case the story turned out different.

OLD BOY · 06-04-2018, 20:39

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Originally Posted by Mr K

If there's a death and someone is responsible, they need to be arrested until the situation is verified. The fact that it's a house break in and he's pensioner is irrelevant. Hope he recovers from this but the police have done nothing wrong.

They do not need to be arrested. The police can establish what happened on the scene and if they determine that the householder or his/her family killed a burglar, it should be a wrap. End of story. Goodbye to bad rubbish.

**Mick** · 06-04-2018, 20:39

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They would've had to arrest him in order to ask the questions and in case the story turned out different.

I get that, but that can still be done without being arrested.