Climate Change

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Nothing to do with meat eating in the UK using UK produce.

You appear to be moving the goalposts (by changing the discussion about "meat" to "meat produced in the U.K.").

Your previous post

What's wrong with meat? An important food and absolutely delicious. This stuff about methane from farts and burps should be factored in not eliminated.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

What parts of the UK have been de-forested to grow meat? We can be totally self-sufficient in meat and not import Brazilian produce, for example. What utter cobblers some of you eco-warriors spout.

Who mentioned the UK, I was replying to a post about China and India and yet it's me that spouts cobblers

Originally Posted by Hugh

You appear to be moving the goalposts (by changing the discussion about "meat" to "meat produced in the U.K.").

He didnt move them, the people commenting about forests did.

[Sephiroth]

On the basis that:

1. Vegetarian animals fart methane;
2. Methane is a climate change factor;
3. Many of the climate change mob are also crusaders against eating meat:

Then:

If we all switched to vegetables, would we fart methane? Especially if we eat raw vegetables?

Not unless you have four stomachs…

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

On the basis that:

1. Vegetarian animals fart methane;
2. Methane is a climate change factor;
3. Many of the climate change mob are also crusaders against eating meat:

Then:

If we all switched to vegetables, would we fart methane? Especially if we eat raw vegetables?

If it wasn't Christmas with all its intentions of goodwill to all, I'd be moaning about the stench of methane this post is giving of

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Not unless you have four stomachs…

I've seen people eating as though they have

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

I've seen people eating as though they have

... and then farted methane. In my schooldays, we used to light farts.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

On the basis that:

1. Vegetarian animals fart methane;
2. Methane is a climate change factor;
3. Many of the climate change mob are also crusaders against eating meat:

Then:

If we all switched to vegetables, would we fart methane? Especially if we eat raw vegetables?

The farting scare is just that. Surely, this is blindingly obvious.

The animals we farm now were here a long time before we were.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The farting scare is just that. Surely, this is blindingly obvious.

The animals we farm now were here a long time before we were.

I think you missed the subtlety of my point, OB! I obviously agree with you.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The animals we farm now were here a long time before we were.

Largely they weren't (they have been deliberately bred for their meat and milk production by humans), and certainly not in the numbers that now exist on farms.

When did you last see a wild cow or chicken?

[Sephiroth]

Millions of buffalo, wildebeeste, etc roam Africa and America.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Millions of buffalo, wildebeeste, etc roam Africa and America.

But a billion cows are farmed.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...on-since-1990/

[Hom3r]

My Niece was a vegetarian, and my god her farts were awful, even a dog would leave the room.

[Sephiroth]

As I've indicated, the acid test is to light a fart.