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Old 27-01-2018, 06:13   #1111
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19th Century Classic Liberalism, perhaps, with a focus on individualism?

I saw her more as economically liberal, with a strong streak of authoritarianism.
Yes that has just about summed her up.
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Old 27-01-2018, 09:58   #1112
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I think of her as divisive and as far from liberal as you can get.
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Old 27-01-2018, 11:56   #1113
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I think of her as divisive and as far from liberal as you can get.
'No such thing as society', according to Maggie. There certainly isn't after her tenure, no manufacturing industry left either
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Old 27-01-2018, 12:19   #1114
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'No such thing as society', according to Maggie. There certainly isn't after her tenure, no manufacturing industry left either
The fabric of society and community which this country once had has long gone Mr K sadly.
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Old 27-01-2018, 12:34   #1115
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. . . no manufacturing industry left either
Sadly very true Mr K

Why bother with all the costs of manufacturing when you can buy what you need, at a fraction of the price, from somewhere else?

Does it really matter that in doing so you are actively promoting, and party to, some dubious work ethic practices in foreign climes, many of which don't have to operate under some of the strict laws that other countries have to?

We became a 'service industry' nation, which was fine and dandy until the rot set in.
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Old 27-01-2018, 12:42   #1116
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'No such thing as society', according to Maggie. There certainly isn't after her tenure, no manufacturing industry left either
A comment from a Woman’s Own interview in 1987 is often repeated, but rarely in context: ”There is no such thing as society”. Its relevance was made explicit with the publication of the second volume of Margaret Thatcher’s autobiography in 1993:

“they never quoted the rest. I went on to say: There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It’s our duty to look after ourselves and then to look after our neighbour. My meaning, clear at the time but subsequently distorted beyond recognition, was that society was not an abstraction, separate from the men and women who composed it, but a living structure of individuals, families, neighbours and voluntary associations.“

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Old 27-01-2018, 12:45   #1117
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'No such thing as society', according to Maggie. There certainly isn't after her tenure, no manufacturing industry left either
More claptrap nonsense. All thanks to Labour and the Unions, squeezing industries, with crippling strikes. Just where we would be again, under a Racist/Antisemitic, Labour Government.
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Old 27-01-2018, 12:47   #1118
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More claptrap nonsense. All thanks to Labour and the Unions, squeezing industries, with crippling strikes. Just where we would be again, under a Racist/Antisemitic, Labour Government.
So Jeremy can count on your vote Mick
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Old 27-01-2018, 13:04   #1119
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So Jeremy can count on your vote Mick
I’m not racist thank you.
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Old 27-01-2018, 13:06   #1120
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Now I am genuinely confused !
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Old 27-01-2018, 13:13   #1121
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So Jeremy can count on your vote Mick
No l am pretty sure Mick is a Theresa May supporter despite a while back saying she had to go.
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Old 27-01-2018, 13:22   #1122
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Now I am genuinely confused !
The way you posted your previous response, suggested I’d vote for a Racist/Antisemitic Labour Party, because what?

You think I’m Racist?

Because what, I voted for Brexit?

Be very careful with what your saying, because I’m no racist.

For the record, I have Asian friends, my cousin has had children with a man from Pakistan.

I have Muslim colleagues, I offer lifts home to or pick up.

My female friend, her grandson has a Muslim father/background.

And lastly. I absolutely have admiration for the Jewish communities standing up for the Antisemitic behaviours that are on the rise, and they find the Antisemitic and racist behaviour from the Labour Party, absolutely abhorrent.
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Old 27-01-2018, 13:31   #1123
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Very good Mick, but I've never suggested you're racist ! The suggestion you might like to vote for Jeremy is what I like to call 'humour'. It doesn't always have to be anger and confrontation, no matter how much you like that.
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Old 27-01-2018, 14:47   #1124
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Fair do’s, must have been my misinterpretation on that post.

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No l am pretty sure Mick is a Theresa May supporter despite a while back saying she had to go.
Still a Tory supporter. But not a TM fan. Too weak and wobbly IMO.
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Old 27-01-2018, 15:15   #1125
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'No such thing as society', according to Maggie. There certainly isn't after her tenure, no manufacturing industry left either
Amazing what you can spin if you take one sentence from the actual quote...
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"They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then, also, to look after our neighbours." – in an interview in Women's Own in 1987.
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