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Old 03-11-2018, 15:56   #4666
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Netflix and Amazon have set prices usually with a free trial , only Now TV offers deals and that's part of Sky.
That's now. As more competition enters the market, expect more deals being advertised to entice prospective subscribers.
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Not something I'd ever watch but I wouldn't be surprised if Sky follow VM and add Hayu considering it's owners are Comcast.
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I hope streamers don't win rights, it will cost a fortune for a decent package of sports.
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And no doubt you will say it each time the rights come up.
Well he may be correct as it will always be this time or next in his world.

Have to agree - streaming will end up with higher prices for sports fans if the rights are spread amongst more companies as OB suggests
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Not something I'd ever watch but I wouldn't be surprised if Sky follow VM and add Hayu considering it's owners are Comcast.
I thought Sky satellite subscribers had this now. It's on Now TV.

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Well he may be correct as it will always be this time or next in his world.
I have only said this just prior to the bids auction this year, so I'm not sure why you would think that.

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Shows leaving Netflix this month.

https://variety.com/2018/digital/new...18-1203007126/

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Apple is to launch a global video service next year. If so, hopefully it will be available on the V6s.

http://informitv.com/2018/10/25/appl...ce/#more-24338

I am a little underwhelmed by the pace at which Apple, such an innovative and respected company, is moving in this area.
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I don't want more streamers Old Boy, but the fact that Apple has the Foundation series rights with several more big names in the works, shows they intend to be a major player in the media world.

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I hope streamers don't win rights, it will cost a fortune for a decent package of sports.
It's already too expensive now. It used to be just Sky, then BT and other channels and now streamers too...

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They won't...
Really??

I don't know if you have Amazon Prime or not, but over the last year they have shown live tennis and American football from America, boxing, snooker, motor car racing and perhaps a few others.

What they've shown would not be considered major for a UK audience, but Amazon are testing the waters and don't forget they've picked up a new batch of premier league rights that was offered at the last football rights auction:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44396151
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Really??

I don't know if you have Amazon Prime or not, but over the last year they have shown live tennis and American football from America, boxing, snooker, motor car racing and perhaps a few others.
Actually we do have Amazon Prime which is useful as a add on to our normal TV services which is the same for the vast majority of people and l don't see that changing.

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What they've shown would not be considered major for a UK audience, but Amazon are testing the waters and don't forget they've picked up a new batch of premier league rights that was offered at the last football rights auction:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44396151
They picked up two very small packages of 10 matches which basically amounts to shopping in the bargain basement area of a shop as there is not a chance of them ever going for the main big football packages because for Amazon or any other streaming company the figures don't add up financially.
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How do you come to that conclusion, Denphone?
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How do you come to that conclusion, Denphone?
Assuming you are talking about the 2 minor packages of PL rights that no-one originally wanted (well not at the price PL wanted for them) - this amounts to all of the games in 2 rounds of midweek premier league matches.

It remains to be seen how they recover the amount they paid for them (whatever it was - never been disclosed so I suspect it was way below what sky/BT pay per game) and how much it will cost to stream a game.

Hardly a major breakthrough!
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They've only just started, it's a toe in the water job for Amazon, you can never say never, Den!
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A big shake up in the sports broadcasting market would come if someone like the Premier League decided not to sell their TV rights instead opting to launch their own streaming service. Maybe selling rights to Amazon recently was the Premier League testing the water's by way of proxy. I'm sure we'd see the 3pm blackout rule, that Eleven Sports have been contesting recently, dissappear fairly quickly.
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... that idea would be the ultimate cutting out the middleman. Very interesting.

Pay tv like Sky was always driven primarily by football, if the pay tv platforms lose this to the streamers or the PL directly, its game over for the likes of Sky and BT.
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Assuming you are talking about the 2 minor packages of PL rights that no-one originally wanted (well not at the price PL wanted for them) - this amounts to all of the games in 2 rounds of midweek premier league matches.

It remains to be seen how they recover the amount they paid for them (whatever it was - never been disclosed so I suspect it was way below what sky/BT pay per game) and how much it will cost to stream a game.

Hardly a major breakthrough!
It's just a toe in the water before the big plunge, Raider.

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... that idea would be the ultimate cutting out the middleman. Very interesting.

Pay tv like Sky was always driven primarily by football, if the pay tv platforms lose this to the streamers or the PL directly, its game over for the likes of Sky and BT.
Agreed, but for some strange reason, there are some people who would like Sky, who have single-handedly raised the cost of Premiership football to this astronomical level, to retain the exclusive rights to the majority of rights to screen these football matches.

I think that ultimately the new players will forge a course that will see a reduction in these obscene level of charges to football supporters.
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So more bidding competition for Premier League football equals cheaper costs for us the viewers interesting.
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So more bidding competition for Premier League football equals cheaper costs for us the viewers interesting.
Innovativè models can make for cheaper subscriptions. Let's see what transpires!
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