[Updated] New petrol & diesel car sales banned from 2030

[denphone]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

All's well that ends well you can still fill up with diesel or petrol .

Which will be for longer then we have been told..

[richard s]

Millions of tonnes of methane gas out there under the ocean for one source but it does have its draw backs.


Advantages:

• Methane is a natural gas so it is a major fuel.
• Methane is also the building foundation for hundreds of compounds which we use to make thousands of our products today.
• In new vehicles we have today that is used to burn hydrogen, billions of natural gas(Methane) will be steam cracked into hydrogen for use as motor vehicle fuel.

Disadvantages:

• It is a main contributor to global warming.
• It is very dangerous to the human body,
• high enough concentrations in the air can result in suffocation of air breathing creatures
• is highly explosive.

JUST LIKE FARTS.

El gov has brought the ban forward to 2030. Now we’re second only to Norway, which will ban new petrol and diesel car sales from 2025.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54981425

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Chris

El gov has brought the ban forward to 2030. Now we’re second only to Norway, which will ban new petrol and diesel car sales from 2025.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54981425

We have a charging point in cleethorpes that will charge 2 cars,going to need a couple more me thinks.

Ambitious but IMO very achievable. I think before 2025 most new consumer cars sold will be electric and at some point and technology and infrastructure should hit an inflection point where it suddenly speeds right up.

The Scottish Government has been going hell for leather deploying EV chargers, even in quite remote spots (arguably where they're most needed, as lots of us up here live in places where your big town 'local errand' 10 mile round trip can easily stretch to 30 miles or more).

I'm encouraged by the hydrogen component in this strategy, because we're going to need fuel cells for bigger cars, repmobiles and HGVs no matter what Elon Musk says. Using excess wind generation to produce hydrogen makes sense. If they can balance supply and demand it might even be possible to do it by simple electrolysis of water, which isn't the most efficient method but is certainly the most straightforward and the cleanest. Ideally we need a hydrogen strategy that produces modest amounts in lots of places close to where the demand is, so as to reduce tanker movements as much as possible.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Chris

El gov has brought the ban forward to 2030. Now we’re second only to Norway, which will ban new petrol and diesel car sales from 2025.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54981425

I look forward to the U-Turn in 2027, when they realise it's not possible.

Or when new car sales hit their lowest ever levels.

Jump to 2045 when the streets of the UK look like a scene from Mad Max with people going to extreme lengths to keep their cars on the road.

I'll have to buy shares in a scrap spare parts business.

I've always wanted to wear epaulettes made of old tyres.

[Carth]

Will we be out of lock down by 2030?

Originally Posted by Carth

Will we be out of lock down by 2030?

We'll most likely be dealing with Covid-29 at that point.

[Carth]

Crikey . . I've just realised:

I'll be 76 in 2030, I'll have probably had one of those small electric things for years

*beep beep* bloody pedestrians

So they are going to completely rebuild the National Grid and electricity distribution, provide charging points for everyone, and triple our electricity generation in 9 years ?

I think not.

[Mr K]

Mr Sinclair and his C5 were ahead of their time. Although maybe he should have stuck to computers.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...droidApp_Other

[nomadking]

New R&D in petrol cars is now going to end. In time, as demand for petrol reduces, fewer petrol stations will remain open, and those that do will increase their prices because of the increase in costs with reduced sales.
The energy suppliers can cope with the varying supply of wind power because there is surplus supply from elsewhere, so talk of "the current system can cope" is misleading.

Add in the effect of moving away from household gas central heating and you have further demands on the electricity system.
Going to be fun when there is a power cut in an area.
Cycling? How does that work in bad weather? News reports on cycling only seem to occur in fine weather. Try doing it in heavy wind, rain, snow, or even sunshine.
Too many gimmick based policies.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by nomadking

New R&D in petrol cars is now going to end. In time, as demand for petrol reduces, fewer petrol stations will remain open, and those that do will increase their prices because of the increase in costs with reduced sales.
The energy suppliers can cope with the varying supply of wind power because there is surplus supply from elsewhere, so talk of "the current system can cope" is misleading.

Add in the effect of moving away from household gas central heating and you have further demands on the electricity system.
Going to be fun when there is a power cut in an area.
Cycling? How does that work in bad weather? News reports on cycling only seem to occur in fine weather. Try doing it in heavy wind, rain, snow, or even sunshine.
Too many gimmick based policies.

Don't worry old chap Boris knows what he is doing, honest,. have faith....
Princess Nut Nuts is a good influence and our prime policy maker.
Meat eating will also be outlawed by 2033.