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Election 2019, Week 1
View Poll Results: Your voting intention at this stage of the campaign:
Labour 7 14.58%
Conservative 20 41.67%
Liberal Democrat 8 16.67%
UKIP 0 0%
Brexit Party 3 6.25%
Green 0 0%
Change UK 0 0%
Plaid Cymru 1 2.08%
SNP 1 2.08%
Irish nationalist 1 2.08%
Irish unionist 0 0%
Other 1 2.08%
Abstaining 2 4.17%
Ineligible 0 0%
Undecided 4 8.33%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-11-2019, 13:39   #301
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According to statistics Remain voters are highly educated !
Personally l find it rather silly why some want to generalise this group and that group and any other group one wants to mention.
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Old 07-11-2019, 13:39   #302
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Proportional representation. As in Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, Germany, etc.

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I doubt 33 million people sought to educate themselves on all of those matters.
So what. They don't have to educate themselves. They have a right of a vote, regardless of choice or reason. They don't need to explain why they voted.
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It would literally be a Government that people did vote for.
They wouldn't have voted for a particular resulting government and policies.
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They wouldn't have voted for a particular resulting government and policies.
It'd have closer policy outcomes to what the majority want, rather than satisfying a minority of the people with a majority Government.

Compromise - I know that notion died in 2016 - would be the result. Either way I'm only pointing out that in the UK FPTP, an unelected House of Lords and an ineffective Head of State leave us some distance from what could be considered democracy.
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Point of order - our head of state is not ineffective. The monarch does her job perfectly well. Electing a head of state to the constitutional and ceremonial role occupied by the monarch wouldn’t do anything to make the role more politically active (which is what you appear to be confusing with effectiveness). To do that we would have to make deep constitutional changes and create an executive presidency after the American or French model. I don’t find that idea especially attractive.
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She literally sat there and had to carry forward illegal advice from a Prime Minister. Totally ineffective in a role that could and should perform an important check and balance against an incompetent executive.
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She literally sat there and had to carry forward illegal advice from a Prime Minister. Totally ineffective in a role that could and should perform an important check and balance against an incompetent executive.
Totally agree. Shows how irrelevant the current incumbent is in today's world.
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Totally agree. Shows how irrelevant the current incumbent is in today's world.
say that to her face
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Totally agree. Shows how irrelevant the current incumbent is in today's world.
A centuries outdated concept that should die off with our colonial history

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say that to her face
Say it to Prince Philip's but remember to turn down the offer of a chauffeur driven Mercedes outside afterwards just in case. Get an Uber.
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say that to her face
Why?
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Taxes will rise says George...

https://www.standard.co.uk/comment/c...-a4281221.html
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She literally sat there and had to carry forward illegal advice from a Prime Minister
Oh ok......been at the cool aid again. it wasn't deemed illegal when it was said to her and she acted upon it.

It was only deemed "illegal" (and I'm not sure if illegal is the right word, as no law was broken) when the supreme court judged simply that parliament had not been prorougued.


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Totally ineffective in a role that could and should perform an important check and balance against an incompetent executive.
stop being silly now.

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Totally agree. Shows how irrelevant the current incumbent is in today's world.
another one that fell off the silly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
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Oh ok......been at the cool aid again. it wasn't deemed illegal when it was said to her and she acted upon it.

It was only deemed "illegal" (and I'm not sure if illegal is the right word, as no law was broken) when the supreme court judged simply that parliament had not been prorougued.

stop being silly now.

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another one that fell off the silly tree and hit every branch on the way down.
If you want to be pedantic I don’t care for the distinction between illegal and unlawful.

She was unable to take separate legal advice from that of the a Government hence she was completely ineffective which was my exact point.

Your subservient mind may not be able to see the obvious however many of us can.
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Oh ok......been at the cool aid again. it wasn't deemed illegal when it was said to her and she acted upon it.

It was only deemed "illegal" (and I'm not sure if illegal is the right word, as no law was broken) when the supreme court judged simply that parliament had not been prorougued.

It wasn't illegal but it was unlawful and that wasn't so until the Supreme Court ruled on it so the Queen's actions were perfectly correct at the time of asking. As for ineffective many people have confirmed that the meetings she has with the Prime Minister of the day are anything but comfortable for the incumbent.
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It wasn't illegal but it was unlawful and that wasn't so until the Supreme Court ruled on it so the Queen's actions were perfectly correct at the time of asking. As for ineffective many people have confirmed that the meetings she has with the Prime Minister of the day are anything but comfortable for the incumbent.
Many people on the Crown’s coin, Establishment stooges.
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