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Election 2019, Week 1
View Poll Results: Your voting intention at this stage of the campaign:
Labour 7 14.58%
Conservative 20 41.67%
Liberal Democrat 8 16.67%
UKIP 0 0%
Brexit Party 3 6.25%
Green 0 0%
Change UK 0 0%
Plaid Cymru 1 2.08%
SNP 1 2.08%
Irish nationalist 1 2.08%
Irish unionist 0 0%
Other 1 2.08%
Abstaining 2 4.17%
Ineligible 0 0%
Undecided 4 8.33%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 29-10-2019, 20:26   #1
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Election 2019, Week 1

This is the official Cable Forum election discussion thread. It will be open for the first week of the campaign, after which it will close and be replaced by another. In this way we can see how voting intention amongst forum members changes as the campaign progresses.

Please use this thread for *all* discussion of issues that arise directly as a result of the campaign - manifesto promises, campaign gaffes, etc etc.

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Old 30-10-2019, 08:06   #2
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OK folks, the passage of the election bill looks like a formality now, so we might as well kick this off.
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Do we need to add some more options - Other, Not Voting, Not Eligible To Vote?
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It’ll be interesting if that hurts him in the end or if the way he publicly distanced himself from the extension request protects him.

It’ll also be interesting to see if Labour do collapse because if not the Tories are unlikely to get a majority, they’ll probably lose seats like Richmond to the Lib Dem’s and some seats in Scotland so they need big gains in Labour areas
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It’ll be interesting if that hurts him in the end or if the way he publicly distanced himself from the extension request protects him.

It’ll also be interesting to see if Labour do collapse because if not the Tories are unlikely to get a majority, they’ll probably lose seats like Richmond to the Lib Dem’s and some seats in Scotland so they need big gains in Labour areas
Given the volatility of the electorate l would say all bets are off as how many are going to vote tactically and how many will say one thing and do exactly the opposite when it comes to voting and that is just two of a whole lot of possible electoral variants.
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Will Swinson lose her seat to the Nats?
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Will Swinson lose her seat to the Nats?
It is always possible as its certainly not a safe seat as such.
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Will Swinson lose her seat to the Nats?
Unless the Liberal Democrats have a shocking campaign probably not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_D...t_constituency)

She lost it by a few thousand votes in the worst election the Liberal Democrats have ever seen. A 30% increase for the SNP. Since then she regained it, has a more comfortable majority and on current polling the Liberal Democrats should expect more voters,
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Unless the Liberal Democrats have a shocking campaign probably not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_D...t_constituency)

She lost it by a few thousand votes in the worst election the Liberal Democrats have ever seen. A 30% increase for the SNP. Since then she regained it, has a more comfortable majority and on current polling the Liberal Democrats should expect more voters,
Johnson has a majority of 5,034 in https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Uxbridge..._constituency) so this would make interesting watching esp. if Labour & the LD's get together

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Johnson has a majority of 5,034 in https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Uxbridge..._constituency) so this would make interesting watching esp. if Labour & the LD's get together
He will probably stand in a safe seat.
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Given the volatility of the electorate l would say all bets are off as how many are going to vote tactically and how many will say one thing and do exactly the opposite when it comes to voting and that is just two of a whole lot of possible electoral variants.
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He will probable stand in a safe seat.
Indeed that is the rumour doing the rounds.
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Meanwhile the Mp for neighbouring town Grimsby has received some disturbing e mails.


Ms Onn also received an email that called her a “vile, treacherous b**tard” and accused her of taking the decision so she could be “rewarded financially...or bought off with a seat in the Lords”.

“Maybe they just have dirt on you from some horrid sexual or other kind of secret,” the email continued.

“Doesn't really matter, does it? You are a vile, treacherous b**tard if you bote [sic] for this deal. You are nothing to do with the Labour party. Hopefully sudden incapacity or death, from some as yet undiscovered health problem, may yet prevent you voting with this far right minority government. If even that forlorn wish fails. May you be hated by many for ever.”


very disturbing

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/n...raitor-3478414

I think she will win the seat despite backing Boris.
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Meanwhile the Mp for neighbouring town Grimsby has received some disturbing e mails.


Ms Onn also received an email that called her a “vile, treacherous b**tard” and accused her of taking the decision so she could be “rewarded financially...or bought off with a seat in the Lords”.

“Maybe they just have dirt on you from some horrid sexual or other kind of secret,” the email continued.

“Doesn't really matter, does it? You are a vile, treacherous b**tard if you bote [sic] for this deal. You are nothing to do with the Labour party. Hopefully sudden incapacity or death, from some as yet undiscovered health problem, may yet prevent you voting with this far right minority government. If even that forlorn wish fails. May you be hated by many for ever.”


very disturbing

https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/n...raitor-3478414

I think she will win the seat despite backing Boris.
Regardless of any MPs position on Brexit that is an absolute disgrace. No one should be subject to that abuse.

I would come back to the representative vs direct democracy discussion and argue that this highlights that the general public has a distinct lack of knowledge of how our political system works.

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