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Old 27-10-2019, 01:00   #1696
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Yes, disregard what the majority think and carry on!

What is the significance of 'Democrat' in 'Liberal Democrat?'. How dare they criticise Boris for going back on 'his promises'! How cynical can you get?
Steady on, Old Boy, you get to throw about weak arguments like “Marxist”, “terrorist sympathiser” etc against the shadow cabinet I ask you to confirm under which legislation the Conservative Party will confirm to adhere to all EU legislation and more importantly exceed them. I eagerly await your reply.
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Old 27-10-2019, 01:10   #1697
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Steady on, Old Boy, you get to throw about weak arguments like “Marxist”, “terrorist sympathiser” etc against the shadow cabinet I ask you to confirm under which legislation the Conservative Party will confirm to adhere to all EU legislation and more importantly exceed them. I eagerly await your reply.
It's late and there is a lot I need to comment on with the latest posts on this thread.

In the meantime, I would like to point out that neither Corbyn nor McDonnell would deny that they are Marxists. The evidence to support my comment on 'terrorist sympathisers' does not come out of the blue - where have you been?

So why are you even questioning this? You seem to be making an industry about diverting attention from what is actually, a given.

Is this your rationale? Just create an argument for the sake of it?

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Old 27-10-2019, 05:18   #1698
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More dishonestly from Johnson:

Fears rise over post-Brexit workers’ rights and regulations



Other non-paywall link: https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...-rights-leaked

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This will be a main theme in the next GE: "Can you trust the dishonest Conservatives?"
If they truely wanted it enshrined why remove it from the legal agreement and move it to the political declaration which is only aspirational, we all know aspirations aren't worth the side of the bus they're written on

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Considering three serving members of the cabinet literally wrote the book on creating "efficiency" in the UK workforce ok curious where the commitment to extend workers rights comes from.

There’s nothing in any of the proposed legislation. Boris saying it doesn’t make it so.
The book where they described us as among the worlds laziest idlers

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British workers are "among the worst idlers in the world", a group of Conservative MPs has claimed.

The UK "rewards laziness", does not encourage risk-taking and must strive to emulate the work ethic and low-tax culture in parts of Asia, the five MPs argue in a book due out next month.

The authors include Elizabeth Truss and Dominic Raab, both tipped to be promoted in a future reshuffle.

"Too many people in Britain prefer a lie-in to hard work," they argue.

The other contributors to Britannia Unchained are Priti Patel, Chris Skidmore and Kwasi Kwarteng, influential members of the "class of 2010" - MPs elected to Parliament at the last election.

What do any of these people know about "graft" as they put it, all I've ever seen Krazy Kwarteng do is lie and they want us to emulate the working practices of Asia, where suicide is often preferable than returning to work after lunch.
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Old 27-10-2019, 10:47   #1699
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Britannia Unchained, a book written (published) in 2012, slated in parts for its poor research and factual errors.

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They have joined the political version of celebrity culture the same culture that they argue, to some extent compellingly, makes Britons believe they can get on without doing any hard work".
I'd never heard of the book until now, but seemingly (7 years later) it's become something that is making guest appearances in the Brexit circus
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Old 27-10-2019, 11:23   #1700
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Lib Dems and SNP will back a election on the 9th December: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50194685

Although sounds like the Tories won't go for it.
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Old 27-10-2019, 11:43   #1701
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Lib Dems and SNP will back a election on the 9th December: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50194685

Although sounds like the Tories won't go for it.


Lib Dems and SNP want one on the 9th Dec, Boris wants one on the 12th Dec.

The reason given for the 9th is "they believe would include time for him to "ram through" his Brexit Bill." . . . will 3 days really make that much difference, or is it sheer bloody mindedness again?

Corbyn on the other hand, is sticking to the same old mantra of rejecting the election call unless a no-deal Brexit is taken off the table. Silly old duffer, still can't understand that not agreeing to a deal means there is no deal.

I can't help but get the feeling most of these people have the highest home/car insurance payments in the country, and are paying the highest tariffs for gas/electricity, because they have no idea how to negotiate a better deal
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Old 27-10-2019, 11:49   #1702
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Lib Dems and SNP want one on the 9th Dec, Boris wants one on the 12th Dec.

The reason given for the 9th is "they believe would include time for him to "ram through" his Brexit Bill." . . . will 3 days really make that much difference, or is it sheer bloody mindedness again?
The reason is because the University terms break up that week so any student registered in their University town will be less likely to vote (as they'll have gone home).

Although I think part of it is a spin war. The Tories want the narrative of having been rejected when they called for an election whereas the SNP/Lib Dems don't want to appear to have been bounced into one.
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Old 27-10-2019, 12:45   #1703
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The reason is because the University terms break up that week so any student registered in their University town will be less likely to vote (as they'll have gone home).
Sounds reasonable I guess, they must be hoping that the students have been sufficiently brainwashed to vote their way
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Sounds reasonable I guess, they must be hoping that the students have been sufficiently brainwashed to vote their way
Hoping the lecturers have done a good job eh
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Hoping the lecturers have done a good job eh
BoJo's lecturers haven't. He's just given the EU 7bn that he didn't need to. Oops!
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Boris Johnson has given up on a windfall for the UK of almost 7bn, which would have covered more than a fifth of the “divorce bill” from the EU.
Under the terms of the new withdrawal bill, which passed its second reading in parliament last Tuesday, Britain has abandoned any claim to the accumulated profits from the European Investment Bank (EIB), which is owned by EU nations.
The UK put in €3.5bn to help finance the EIB in 1973, 16.1% of the total at the time. The EIB, which has invested in infrastructure projects including Crossrail and the London “super sewer”, has since built up reserves through retained profits.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...bank-tq0qskgfc (full article pay-walled)
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If they truely wanted it enshrined why remove it from the legal agreement and move it to the political declaration which is only aspirational, we all know aspirations aren't worth the side of the bus they're written on

The book where they described us as among the worlds laziest idlers

What do any of these people know about "graft" as they put it, all I've ever seen Krazy Kwarteng do is lie and they want us to emulate the working practices of Asia, where suicide is often preferable than returning to work after lunch.
When was it ever in the legal agreement?
The only references to "level playing field" were in the customs arrangements for NI.
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BoJo's lecturers haven't. He's just given the EU 7bn that he didn't need to. Oops!

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/u...bank-tq0qskgfc (full article pay-walled)

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Boris Johnson has given up on a windfall for the UK of almost 7bn, which would have covered more than a fifth of the “divorce bill” from the EU.
Under the terms of the new withdrawal bill, which passed its second reading in parliament last Tuesday, Britain has abandoned any claim to the accumulated profits from the European Investment Bank (EIB), which is owned by EU nations.

329 MPs allowed it to happen . . not just Boris

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MPs have voted to allow the government’s withdrawal agreement bill to pass to the next stage of the parliamentary process.

They voted by 329 votes to 299; a majority of 30 on the second reading.
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329 MPs allowed it to happen . . not just Boris
More fools them and I suspect some didn't read it.
Let's hope this costly withdrawal act does not make it into law.
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More fools them and I suspect some didn't read it.
Let's hope this costly withdrawal act does not make it into law.
Or didn't have time to read it...
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More fools them and I suspect some didn't read it.
Let's hope this costly withdrawal act does not make it into law.
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Or didn't have time to read it...
so why give it the nod without reading it? Incompetence?
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