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Old 26-09-2019, 18:49   #571
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Well, after all the kicking and screaming these pathetic Remainiac MPs have done about Parliament being shut down, the House of Commons has adjourned at 17:04, just over half n hour ago. So much for the Brexit scrutiny they were screeching for.
Well nothing to scrutinise, so may as well jog off home . . only slightly different to last week really, but they can legally leave early
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Old 26-09-2019, 19:18   #572
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Well, after all the kicking and screaming these pathetic Remainiac MPs have done about Parliament being shut down, the House of Commons has adjourned at 17:04, just over half n hour ago. So much for the Brexit scrutiny they were screeching for.
Losing a few hours here and there isn't the same as losing five weeks.
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Old 26-09-2019, 19:28   #573
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Well, after all the kicking and screaming these pathetic Remainiac MPs have done about Parliament being shut down, the House of Commons has adjourned at 17:04, just over half n hour ago. So much for the Brexit scrutiny they were screeching for.
It was all bull they lied to the courts for political reasons.
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Losing a few hours here and there isn't the same as losing five weeks.
Exactly.

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For proroguing Parliament read "breaking the law".

If there's one thing I'm certain of its that Boris won't calm down. His electoral future depends on stoking the fire of nationalism.
He needs to win over potential Brexit Party voters as he's deserted One Nation Conservatism. His best way to do this would be to leave on 31 October but he can't do that which is awkward. So his best bet is to stir things up and try and re-invent himself as an anti-Establishment hero.

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Well nothing to scrutinise, so may as well jog off home . . only slightly different to last week really, but they can legally leave early
Exactly. If they get something to scrutinise then doubtless they'll make up the hours. Just need BoJo to start negotiating in Brussels and not electioneering in the UK.
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Old 26-09-2019, 19:41   #575
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Once again i thank you for your opinion, i will of course take it onboard and decide at a later date if it has any merit .
Once again, you are confusing facts (which I have posted) with opinion (which I haven't).

I would recommend you don't try this approach with gravity by jumping out of a 4th floor window, as taking gravity as an opinion and deciiding later if it has any merit may result in sub-optimal results...
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Old 26-09-2019, 19:49   #576
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

Talking of sub optimal results, I gather things aren't going too well across the channel
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Exactly.

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He needs to win over potential Brexit Party voters as he's deserted One Nation Conservatism. His best way to do this would be to leave on 31 October but he can't do that which is awkward. So his best bet is to stir things up and try and re-invent himself as an anti-Establishment hero.

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Exactly. If they get something to scrutinise then doubtless they'll make up the hours. Just need BoJo to start negotiating in Brussels and not electioneering in the UK.
I heard a theory to explain his double speak on the matter that he could have been tipped the wink by one of the EU27 that they were planning to veto the extension if asked for.
Alternatively I suppose he could just go to Brussels and make such a nuisance of himself Farage style that they finally decide to get rid. He'd do quite a good job at that.
On the other hand it could merely be the usual Bullingdon bluff and bluster.
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Old 26-09-2019, 20:13   #578
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Once again, you are confusing facts (which I have posted) with opinion (which I haven't).

I would recommend you don't try this approach with gravity by jumping out of a 4th floor window, as taking gravity as an opinion and deciding later if it has any merit may result in sub-optimal results...
Once again i thank you for your opinion, i will of course take it onboard and decide at a later date if it has any merit .


Ps sorted your spelling error.

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I heard a theory to explain his double speak on the matter that he could have been tipped the wink by one of the EU27 that they were planning to veto the extension if asked for.
Alternatively I suppose he could just go to Brussels and make such a nuisance of himself Farage style that they finally decide to get rid. He'd do quite a good job at that.
On the other hand it could merely be the usual Bullingdon bluff and bluster.
It's possible that the surrender bill if full of loopholes, it was done in a hurry.
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For proroguing Parliament read "breaking the law".

If there's one thing I'm certain of its that Boris won't calm down. His electoral future depends on stoking the fire of nationalism.
Well, if you watched the House of Commons last night, you would see that the opposition parties could do with a bit of calming down, too! Their self righteous indignation is sickening - they think they are the only ones who have the right to be annoyed. What they seem not to understand is that the public is not on their side.

Incidentally, you may regard it as a technicality, but no law was broken. The judges stated that what Boris did was unlawful, not illegal. Therefore, no criminal offence was committed.
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Well, if you watched the House of Commons last night, you would see that the opposition parties could do with a bit of calming down, too! Their self righteous indignation is sickening - they think they are the only ones who have the right to be annoyed. What they seem not to understand is that the public is not on their side.
Some of the public are on the Government's side, some on the Opposition's.
We need a Prime Minister who can bring the country together not divide it. Our country's enemies must be licking their lips at the divisions the country is in and our Prime Minister's inability to heal them.
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Well, if you watched the House of Commons last night, you would see that the opposition parties could do with a bit of calming down, too! Their self righteous indignation is sickening - they think they are the only ones who have the right to be annoyed. What they seem not to understand is that the public is not on their side.

Incidentally, you may regard it as a technicality, but no law was broken. The judges stated that what Boris did was unlawful, not illegal. Therefore, no criminal offence was committed.
Wrong again. Constitutional law was broken, not criminal. So yes, he did break the law. Even the brexiteers flagship red top admits to this.

Since you want to take this to a technical level
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Some of the public are on the Government's side, some on the Opposition's.
We need a Prime Minister who can bring the country together not divide it. Our country's enemies must be licking their lips at the divisions the country is in and our Prime Minister's inability to heal them.
None of the opposition party leaders [or their politics] fit the bill.
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None of the opposition party leaders [or their politics] fit the bill.
Nor does Boris.....
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Well, if you watched the House of Commons last night, you would see that the opposition parties could do with a bit of calming down, too! Their self righteous indignation is sickening - they think they are the only ones who have the right to be annoyed. What they seem not to understand is that the public is not on their side.

Incidentally, you may regard it as a technicality, but no law was broken. The judges stated that what Boris did was unlawful, not illegal. Therefore, no criminal offence was committed.
I watched. It's the job of the opposition to be divisive and reactionary. It's the job of Government to lead, despite the opposition.
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Nor does Boris.....
I never said he did.
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