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Old 20-12-2019, 17:19   #2011
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

Anyway - all that Scottish tosh aside ...

The Guvmin got a huge majority for the Withdrawal Bill and the timetable to get it all through Parliament by 09-January.

Meanwhile, the bleaters don't stop - nothwithstanding the election result.

Anyway, a good day in Parliament, at last.
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Six Labour MPs voted for the bill, and it looks like around 30 abstained, in defiance of Corbyn who, even now, still doesnít understand that there is a clear democratic mandate not only for Brexit, but to stop dithering and get it done. The rest of the PLP, apparently equally delusional as their lame duck leader, followed his whip and voted against.

---------- Post added at 15:37 ---------- Previous post was at 15:19 ----------

Update ... 25 formal Labour abstentions, five shadow ministers failed to show up and did not have permission to be absent. One brand new Labour MP seems to have missed the vote by accident. What a shower of incompetents and moral cowards.
358? If there are 365 Tory MPs, and 6 Labour voted for it, that means at least 13 Tory MPs didn't. A principaled stand or down the pub?
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Old 20-12-2019, 19:04   #2013
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358? If there are 365 Tory MPs, and 6 Labour voted for it, that means at least 13 Tory MPs didn't. A principaled stand or down the pub?
I imagine with the parliamentary maths as they are, a few people may have been excused attendance for one reason or another. I don’t know - when I last posted the details of who voted for what were still coming in. I would be seriously surprised (and unimpressed in the extreme) if any Tories voted against, or were absent without permission, given the centrality of this vote to the election campaign.

Edit ... full breakdown here: https://www.theguardian.com/politics...he-brexit-deal

Looks like about a dozen Tories didn’t vote. As I said, I’d be monumentally surprised if they didn’t have permission from the whips to be absent.

(Obvs Sinn Fein didn’t vote, but a few SNP and at least one DUP didn’t either).

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11 Tories were absent
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11 Tories were absent
well that's smashed that conspiracy theory
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11 Tories were absent
Do they have a note from their Mums?

Still 2 unaccounted for then....
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Do they have a note from their Mums?

Still 2 unaccounted for then....
If youíre really desperate for a shred of comfort you could go through the voting list with a fine-tooth comb if you want. Grauniad link above.

But to be honest I think even for a remainer in continued denial youíre grasping.
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The bill passed no need for any further discussion really.
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Old 20-12-2019, 19:46   #2019
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If youíre really desperate for a shred of comfort you could go through the voting list with a fine-tooth comb if you want. Grauniad link above.

But to be honest I think even for a remainer in continued denial youíre grasping.
I was just interested old chap, chillax !
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Do they have a note from their Mums?

Still 2 unaccounted for then....
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Old 21-12-2019, 13:49   #2021
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

I think this thread gives us an indication of how things might go with the trade talks.
https://twitter.com/RussInCheshire/s...33108472434688
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I think this thread gives us an indication of how things might go with the trade talks.
https://twitter.com/RussInCheshire/s...33108472434688
Prophesied by the guy who said we would not even get past the first stage of negotiations with the EU!

When are you going to ditch your negative outlook and actually try to understand how many times you have been wrong on this?
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Itís humour - chillax, dude...
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Prophesied by the guy who said we would not even get past the first stage of negotiations with the EU!

When are you going to ditch your negative outlook and actually try to understand how many times you have been wrong on this?
With all due respect, lots of people have been wrong from both sides. It's not just a one person/side thing.
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Re: Brexit Development(s) Discussion

Technically, negotiations haven't started yet and can't start until after we leave the EU on 31st Jan 2020. All that has been agreed so far is an interim set of arrangements, and until the EU Parliament approves it, even that isn't in place.
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