Brexit (Old)

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mick

The Government has no plans and has repeatedly ruled out extending A50. So as I said... The mechanics do matter. The sooner you accept that, the better.

It's not long ago that Theresa May was telling us she wouldn't hold an election, was it? Look what happened.
And it was even more recently that she was promising not to delay the vote, wasn't she? Look what happened.
The Government's got form here and you don't need to have Hawkeye to spot it!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's not long ago that Theresa May was telling us she wouldn't hold an election, was it? Look what happened.
And it was even more recently that she was promising not to delay the vote, wasn't she? Look what happened.
The Government's got form here and you don't need to have Hawkeye to spot it!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46856149

“No Brexit more likely than No Deal” - Theresa May (to be said tomorrow).

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Mick

The Government has no plans and has repeatedly ruled out extending A50. So as I said... The mechanics do matter. The sooner you accept that, the better.

the government had no plans and did not want to publish the brexit assessment documents parliament made them

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Dave42

the government had no plans and did not want to publish the brexit assessment documents parliament made them

Exactly. Parliament is taking control and the country decided to elect a Parliament of majority Remain MPs in 2017.

https://www.bloomberg.com/

May’s warning comes after the Sunday Times reported that some lawmakers are planning to seize control of the legislative agenda from the government in an act that would allow Parliament to extend the March 29 Brexit deadline or even overturn the decision to leave the EU.

A senior government official on Sunday described the plan as extremely concerning, since if it succeeds lawmakers would gain control over not just Brexit legislation but all legislation.

So, there is concern that lawmakers would gain control over the laws?

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Exactly. Parliament is taking control and the country decided to elect a Parliament of majority Remain MPs in 2017.

No they did not at all.

Why do you keep making your own stuff up as you go along?!?

That is totally inaccurate.

The facts actually are: They elected for parties which stood on manifestos for leave!!!

80% of the electorate voted for leave parties in 2017 - to say otherwise is a utter lie and distortion of the truth.

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Originally Posted by Dave42

the government had no plans and did not want to publish the brexit assessment documents parliament made them

You're still showing you don't quite know how the legislative powers work Dave there is a difference to that and actually invoking primary legislation, but do keep up....

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Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.bloomberg.com/

So, there is concern that lawmakers would gain control over the laws?

I think it's a case of - It's 11th hour scare stories from No. 10 - to whip up support, last bid attempt and all that, for her terrible deal.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's not long ago that Theresa May was telling us she wouldn't hold an election, was it? Look what happened.
And it was even more recently that she was promising not to delay the vote, wasn't she? Look what happened.
The Government's got form here and you don't need to have Hawkeye to spot it!

As obvious as night that turns to day.

[Sephiroth]

Is see that the Remainers are having a field day. It's like vultures circling a circling a soon to be carcass.

If Parliament dares to suspend or cancel Brexit then we really do have a crisis that will spill onto the streets.

This disgraceful set of manoeuvers comes just as we could wobble the EU into concessions as they see their £39m disappearing down the toilet and they see their beloved perfidious Ireland take a serious economic hit.

But no, Corbyn is hell bent on power with no Brexit plan and the Tories could lose an election based on their performance.

Jeez - Remainers; are these intended or unintended consequences of your mission to overturn the Brexit Referendum? Either way, shame on you.

[jfman]

If those are the consequences then so be it. A price worth paying.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Is see that the Remainers are having a field day. It's like vultures circling a circling a soon to be carcass.

If Parliament dares to suspend or cancel Brexit then we really do have a crisis that will spill onto the streets.

This disgraceful set of manoeuvers comes just as we could wobble the EU into concessions as they see their £39m disappearing down the toilet and they see their beloved perfidious Ireland take a serious economic hit.

But no, Corbyn is hell bent on power with no Brexit plan and the Tories could lose an election based on their performance.

Jeez - Remainers; are these intended or unintended consequences of your mission to overturn the Brexit Referendum? Either way, shame on you.

Hmmm more than a whiff of project fear about some parts of this post......

[Stephen]

BBC News - Theresa May says no Brexit more likely than no deal

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46856149

.She will use a speech on Monday to warn that Parliament is more likely to block Brexit than let the UK leave without a deal.

Mrs May will add that trust in politics will suffer "catastrophic harm" if the referendum result is not implemented.

Originally Posted by jfman

If those are the consequences then so be it. A price worth paying.

No it’s not. You are so naive if you think Brexiteers will just accept Brexit being stopped. British political spectrum will be turned upside down, division will be as strong as ever, the desire to leave a cancerous union will still be there.

Brexiteers are not going to go quietly in to the night and accept the same old status quo of being in a disgusting, corrupted EU.

We must leave the EU Dictatorship.

Democracy is being abused for your own selfish reasons because you think we cannot survive outside a corrupted entity, you are wrong.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Mick

No it’s not. You are so naive if you think Brexiteers will just accept Brexit being stopped. British political spectrum will be turned upside down, division will be as strong as ever, the desire to leave a cancerous union will still be there.

Brexiteers are not going to go quietly in to the night and accept the same old status quo of being in a disgusting, corrupted EU.

We must leave the EU Dictatorship.

Democracy is being abused for your own selfish reasons because you think we cannot survive outside a corrupted entity, you are wrong.

You don't know this though Mick, it's pure conjecture, it's no more fact than i know that remaining would mean the country would be in the land of milk and honey.

Regardless of leaving/remaining we will still be under the control of a corrupted entity that being our current political system.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Exactly. Parliament is taking control and the country decided to elect a Parliament of majority Remain MPs in 2017.

MPs that in the majority stood on a manifesto to leave the EU

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Corbyn is hell bent on power with no Brexit plan and the Tories could lose an election based on their performance.

Corbyn and Labour have been totally lamentable in this whole period.

Like or dislike May, like or dislike her deal, she has at least come back with a position and a deal.

And as split as the Tories are, at least you know what they want as individuals also.

I have no idea what Labours position is. Nor do they. If Corbyn thinks this is his ticket into power, I think he will be disappointed.

[mrmistoffelees]

Originally Posted by Pierre

MPs that in the majority stood on a manifesto to leave the EU

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Corbyn and Labour have been totally lamentable in this whole period.

Like or dislike May, like or dislike her deal, she has at least come back with a position and a deal.

And as split as the Tories are, at least you know what they want as individuals also.

I have no idea what Labours position is. Nor do they. If Corbyn thinks this is his ticket into power, I think he will be disappointed.

The official labour position is to still pursue Brexit, but to attempt to renegotiate a deal with Brussels (not sure how that's going to play out considering the EU's comments)

Corbyns attempt at no confidence vote will be symbolic only as DUP etc will vote against. I agree that if Corbyn thinks he will be able to use this to gain power then it's not going to happen.