President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation

BREAKING: Former Secretary of State under Obama’s Administration John Kerry, has secretly met with Iranian FM Javad Zarif to try to save the 'Iran deal' against US policy, in violation of the Logan Act - Boston Globe

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

The incidence of stabbings in the UK in recent years is terrible but I don't get the relevance of Trump's exaggerated picture here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44007312

Another rant by Mr know it all. No evidence or facts involved at his gun convention.

He Cleary has no interest in solving gun crime, instead offering support to the gun wielding fools of the nation.

The Boston Globe isn't saying it's a violation of the Logan act.

From the actual story: http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nati...CUL/story.html

The Logan Act prohibits US citizens from having private correspondence with a foreign government “with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government . . . in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States.”

Stephen Vladeck, a law professor at the University of Texas, said the law is a red herring — since it’s never been used to prosecute anyone — and almost certainly would not apply to anything Kerry is doing.

“The act only applies to conduct that is designed to ‘defeat the measures of the United States’ or influence the conduct of foreign governments,” Vladeck said. “If all Kerry is doing is working to keep in place something that’s still technically a ‘measure of the United States,’ I don’t see how the statute would apply even if someone was crazy enough to try it.”

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Another rant by Mr know it all. No evidence or facts involved at his gun convention.

He Cleary has no interest in solving gun crime, instead offering support to the gun wielding fools of the nation.

You were saying?

A surgeon in London has likened his hospital to a war zone and says he is regularly treating children in school uniform for knife wounds.
Martin Griffiths, a lead surgeon at Barts Health NHS Trust, said military colleagues have described their work as being similar to Camp Bastion, the British Forces base in Afghanistan.
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Speaking about the shocking spate of attacks, Mr Griffiths told BBC Radio 4's Today programme

[Stephen]

Likened to is not fact or evidence that it is actually a war zone, or that there is blood all over the floors. Trump exaggerating things yet again.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Likened to is not fact or evidence that it is actually a war zone, or that there is blood all over the floors. Trump exaggerating things yet again.

the president said he recently read that an unspecified London hospital was "like a war zone for horrible stabbing wounds".

A surgeon in London has likened his hospital to a war zone

All consistent with what he said.

Based on people who are there in the hospital and would know what a warzone is like.

said military colleagues have described their work as being similar to Camp Bastion, the British Forces base in Afghanistan.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Likened to is not fact or evidence that it is actually a war zone, or that there is blood all over the floors. Trump exaggerating things yet again.

Whether its a war zone or not he should mind his own bloody business..

funny how he never said that 58 people dead and 851 injured was like a war zone...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

funny how he never said that 58 people dead and 851 injured was like a war zone...

He who pays the piper calls the tune.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Hugh

funny how he never said that 58 people dead and 851 injured was like a war zone...

"I recently read a story that in London, which has unbelievably tough gun laws, a once very prestigious hospital right in the middle is like a war zone for horrible stabbing wounds," he said on Friday.
"They don't have guns. They have knives and instead there's blood all over the floors of this hospital.

That was his point and it is true to that extent.

Originally Posted by Damien

The Boston Globe isn't saying it's a violation of the Logan act.

From the actual story: http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nati...CUL/story.html

Sigh. It is a Logan Act violation. He is not the Secretary of State any longer, he is an unauthorised person trying to conduct U.S policy in a Country the U.S a dispute with.

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Originally Posted by denphone

Whether its a war zone or not he should mind his own bloody business..

Just like we should mind our business when we talk of their gun culture. I don’t agree with guns, but large parts of America does.

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Originally Posted by nomadking

All consistent with what he said.

Based on people who are there in the hospital and would know what a warzone is like.

It’s ok nomadking, the Crooked Hillary worshippers can’t stand the truth coming from Trump’s mouth. Trump derangement syndrome is in full swing mode. Pathetic.

Originally Posted by Mick

Sigh. It is a Logan Act violation. He is not the Secretary of State any longer, he is an unauthorised person trying to conduct U.S policy in a Country the U.S a dispute with.

I was just saying the Boston Globe and the law professor said it wasn't which is what your post implied.

I didn't know it was you saying it as opposed to them

It wasn’t me saying it either, saw someones headline and copy’d and pasted. The Logan Act, was a law created in 1799, but to date not one person has been convicted of a breach of it.

If John Kerry has tried to interfere in a foreign policy, he should be in serious legal peril, but he is a Democrat, so he may probably get a pass.

The Scandals at the Department of Justice (Under Obama Administration) just keep mounting... DOJ Office if Inspector General announced yesterday, he has to delay his Committee testimony next week due to new leads in the Crooked Hillary email case and a further unredacted verson of the House report highlights there was inconsistencies with Acting Attorney General Sally Yates, (who Trump fired), James Comey (who Trump fired) and Andrew McCabe, (was fired by FBI and DOJ) testimony early last year, inconsistencies while giving evidence to lawmakers regarding Michael Flynn.

Originally Posted by Mick

It wasn’t me saying it either, saw someones headline and copy’d and pasted. The Logan Act, was a law created in 1799, but to date not one person has been convicted of a breach of it.
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Ok but that headline says the opposite of what the article said.

We're arguing this based on an inaccurate headline of an article which literally makes the opposite point.

Regardless of the semantics of the headline. John Kerry has no business trying to do anything with Iran. Yes no?