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Old 08-07-2020, 19:11   #31
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Re: Apple to transition Macs to their own chipset

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Given they aren't going to be selling ARM macs for a couple of years and they'll be supporting their existing Macs for a couple of years after that, I see no issue with buying a Mac today.

In 12-18 months that gets tricky.

Macs (And Apple hardware in general) tends to retain its value really well regardless.
The first ARM Macs are supposed to be released around Christmas. Nothing official mind.
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Old 08-07-2020, 20:16   #32
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Re: Apple to transition Macs to their own chipset

I think the biggest issue is do you really want to be getting the first-generation of ARM-based Macs?
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Old 08-07-2020, 21:17   #33
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Re: Apple to transition Macs to their own chipset

It might be moot, he’s now drooling over a Dell XPS 17. He went on his favourite Internet forum and asked “Mac or PC?” ... poor boy, doesn’t yet know how these things go. I tried explaining to no avail, kiddies just tell you to get what they already have (or want). The fact such debates were on this very forum and its predecessor since before he was born cuts no ice.

The Dell is very very shiny though. And it has a touchscreen.
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Re: Apple to transition Macs to their own chipset

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It might be moot, he’s now drooling over a Dell XPS 17. He went on his favourite Internet forum and asked “Mac or PC?” ... poor boy, doesn’t yet know how these things go. I tried explaining to no avail, kiddies just tell you to get what they already have (or want). The fact such debates were on this very forum and its predecessor since before he was born cuts no ice.

The Dell is very very shiny though. And it has a touchscreen.
The Dell XPS is really nice especially the quality of the screen and the compact form factor. Just make sure he doesn't need Logic Pro and the ports are up to spec. I was looking at a Dell XPS 13 but I couldn't work out if I could reliably dock two 25inch monitors via their version of the Thunderbolt port without using a dock.

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Old 09-07-2020, 16:21   #35
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Re: Apple to transition Macs to their own chipset

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The first ARM Macs are supposed to be released around Christmas. Nothing official mind.
Ah,well I misunderstood the transition period!

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It might be moot, he’s now drooling over a Dell XPS 17. He went on his favourite Internet forum and asked “Mac or PC?” ... poor boy, doesn’t yet know how these things go. I tried explaining to no avail, kiddies just tell you to get what they already have (or want). The fact such debates were on this very forum and its predecessor since before he was born cuts no ice.

The Dell is very very shiny though. And it has a touchscreen.
In fairness for what he wants to do, it'll likely make little difference in the long run. Most of the big media editing packages are available on both and he'll probably get more for his money.
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Re: Apple to transition Macs to their own chipset

I will admit to being mostly wrong on this. The performance figures do show it is behind in floating point work but it is much better than I or many experts predicted. The cpu market will definitely be interesting in the near future.
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Re: Apple to transition Macs to their own chipset

It's interesting that for the time being some of the new M-series models will continue to have an Intel equivalent also for sale. Apple seems to see this as a very long-term transition, or perhaps they still need to persuade some of the software makers to get onboard.

Eldest spent a king's ransom on a 16" MacBook Pro in the end. It is very, very nice indeed. And clearly its Intel chip isn't going obsolete any time soon.
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Re: Apple to transition Macs to their own chipset

The transitory period seems to be going faster than I anticipated also. Blizzard for instance have already released ARM versions of their software. This is probably due to the better coding standards and tools available today. Had transitioning been this easy in 2000 then the Intel Itanium may still be with us.
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Re: Apple to transition Macs to their own chipset

The results are pretty amazing. The Macbook Air now benchmarks quicker than Apple's fastest laptop even when emulating Intel-based apps. The scores for native performance are extraordinarily good. Everyone else must be taking note of this and hopefully, Microsoft will commit more to ARM now as it's hard not to conclude that this is where the consumer computer market is going.

In addition to the huge performance improvements, the battery life of the laptops has nearly doubled as well.

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It's interesting that for the time being some of the new M-series models will continue to have an Intel equivalent also for sale. Apple seems to see this as a very long-term transition, or perhaps they still need to persuade some of the software makers to get onboard.
The Macbook Pros have now divided between a lower tier and an upper-tier for a while. The upper-tier getting a more powerful processor range and two additional ports.

It's the lower tier they've replaced with M-Series chips so I suspect they're waiting for M1X or whatever they come up with - a more powerful processer which draws more energy - before replacing both the upper tier 13" and the 16" range.
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