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Old 09-03-2018, 13:20   #61
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Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury

It's all starting to sound very . . . . strange

The police are now saying:
Detective Sergeant Nick Bailey, who is being treated in hospital, was made seriously ill after being sent to Colonel Skripal’s house in Salisbury.

Det Sgt Bailey was one of the first police officers to attend the house in a cul-de-sac a few hours after Col Skripal and his daughter Yulia collapsed in Salisbury town centre.



so . . one of the first, not the first.
I would assume (yes I know) that other officers would have attended the home earlier, rather than drag an officer away from the location of the initial incident?

Call me whatever you like, but I'm starting to question what comes out in the media.
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Old 09-03-2018, 13:26   #62
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Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury

Reporting can be a bit confusing in the aftermath of an incident. I don't really see the issue here though?
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Old 09-03-2018, 13:36   #63
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Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury

This would also explain the large investigation surrounding his house.

There's more to this than meets the eye and IMHO quite rightly the media are not being informed fully about the scope of the investigation.
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Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury

I think it lends credence to Heero's theory that this was passed via a 'present'. Of course now the question is how Heero, or should I say Comrade Heero, knew so much about this.
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Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury

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Reporting can be a bit confusing in the aftermath of an incident. I don't really see the issue here though?
Yeah you're probably right, it appears that it was put forward as a 'possibility' and then pounced on as fact by the media

I'm glad I don't do facebook or twitter, I'd be confused for the rest of my life by the 'true facts' reported on there

. . . me decides to turn the interweb off and get more guitar practice done
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Yeah you're probably right, it appears that it was put forward as a 'possibility' and then pounced on as fact by the media

I'm glad I don't do facebook or twitter, I'd be confused for the rest of my life by the 'true facts' reported on there

. . . me decides to turn the interweb off and get more guitar practice done
Twitter can in some circumstances be a good source of information if you bear in mind "due dilligence" i.e. if you are going to quote it as a source check it out first! Normally (not always) a link is given, if not ignore it (unless you wish to quote the person who is the subject for their post).

Facebook is for the braindead who'll believe anything.
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Old 09-03-2018, 16:03   #67
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Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury

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Precaution and the placebo effect could well explain the other 18 but not the police officer.

As regards Litventko, not sloppy enough to affect any other person.
17 other were affected, but not at a long-term risk to life level.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...russia.science
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To date, 733 people other than Litvinenko have been tested. Of those, 716 were considered to be at no risk of developing illnesses related to polonium-210. Seventeen were contaminated to above average levels but the HPA say that, for them, "any increased [health] risk in the long term is likely to be very small".
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Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury

The police have said 21 minus 3 =???
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The police have said 21 minus 3 =???
my quote was about the Litvinenko poisoning.
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my quote was about the Litvinenko poisoning.
OK, the difference between "any increased [health] risk in the long term is likely to be very small".

To an officer who is still under care in hospital.

Not much different then depending on your POV.
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Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury

The Russians are laughing at us, they know we'll do diddly squat. They seem to now have infiltrated most of our social media. It sounds pathetic, but much as I like football, the thing they would most notice of is a World Cup boycott. Its the least we can do, but we'd need our EU friends back us up (oh no , I forgot, we've made enemies of them too....)
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Not all Russian people like Putin and they would like to see him gone....
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I'd say the majority of ordinary Russians would be happy with no Putin but given the state surveillance that's been ramped up by Putin it's a brave russian that would whisper that. The increase in positive russian social media coverage has everything to do with two social media departments setup one by the fsb in st petersburg and the other by the ministry for foreign affairs in moscow. Estimates range from fifty thousand upto two hundred and fifty thousand being paid to put up pro russian comments as well as adopting names in english and claiming to be nationals from the west that support everything russia does and saying they wish they lived in russia.

It's digital propaganda and it's mostly bovine excrement but it seems to keep vlad happy he likes positive comments even when he's paying for them.
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Re: New UK-Russia Tensions after Ex-Russian Spy Poisoned in Salisbury

Never met anyone online who is pro Putin or Russia..My spider senses would be tingling if I had.
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