03-02-2020, 20:57
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Overseas aid
I know this topic has been discussed before but it’s worth reminding ourselves just how well off we are, or more pertinently, how the lives of others are so hard.
This woman worked for a pittance to feed her family and sold her hair to put food on the table and to pay her debts.
How can we not help those like her when it is within the power of our hand to do so?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-51207983
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03-02-2020, 21:10
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So we should finance having an unsustainable number of children and failed pipe dreams and debts?
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03-02-2020, 21:32
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Have a heart nomadking. It would be morally wrong not to help when we can.
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03-02-2020, 21:49
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Still doesn't change the little things called facts, which are they had more kids than they could support even before getting into debt, and they got into debt chasing a pipe dream.
What is the current Indian spending on their space programme?
How many more Indian(and all the others in the world) kids should the UK expected to support by borrowing?
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03-02-2020, 22:01
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How many more Indian(and all the others in the world) kids should the UK expected to support by borrowing?
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Our biggest debt appears to be in compassion.
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03-02-2020, 22:07
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Our biggest debt appears to be in compassion.
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You still haven't answered the question of how many hundreds of millions should we be expected to support, especially when they themselves don't care.
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03-02-2020, 22:15
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Re: Overseas aid
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You still haven't answered the question of how many hundreds of millions should we be expected to support, especially when they themselves don't care.
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Generally aid is meant to provided infrastructure to help communities build up rather than just supporting every single person. I.E Water pumps, schools, hospitals and whatever. That's when it's not being used as a tool of foreign policy in which case it's more a case of providing them 'aid' rather any actual aid.
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03-02-2020, 22:24
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Generally aid is meant to provided infrastructure to help communities build up rather than just supporting every single person. I.E Water pumps, schools, hospitals and whatever. That's when it's not being used as a tool of foreign policy in which case it's more a case of providing them 'aid' rather any actual aid.
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How would any of that help your quoted example? No connection whatsoever. Did she have 3 kids, get into debt, and have to sell her hair because of a lack of a water pump?
They usually have all the money they need.
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03-02-2020, 22:31
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How would any of that help your quoted example? No connection whatsoever. Did she have 3 kids, get into debt, and have to sell her hair because of a lack of a water pump?
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It doesn't have any connection to the article, which itself isn't about foreign aid either. I don't really think that article is a good example of what and who foreign aid is meant to target anyway.
I was just stating what foreign aid is used for though.
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04-02-2020, 08:41
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Re: Overseas aid
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Originally Posted by Damien
Generally aid is meant to provided infrastructure to help communities build up rather than just supporting every single person. I.E Water pumps, schools, hospitals and whatever. That's when it's not being used as a tool of foreign policy in which case it's more a case of providing them 'aid' rather any actual aid.
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It doesn't have any connection to the article, which itself isn't about foreign aid either. I don't really think that article is a good example of what and who foreign aid is meant to target anyway.
I was just stating what foreign aid is used for though.
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04-02-2020, 08:46
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The Indian state spends it's money on guns planes tanks and bombs,they also have an active space program,i don't think it unreasonable to expect them to look after the well-being of their own citizens without handouts from other nations.
Yes i feel for these people but India is more than capable of sorting out it's priorities.
we see adverts on tv showing people all over the world with no access to clean water,yet they have access to millions of AK 47s and belts / magazines full of bullets.
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04-02-2020, 08:48
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India is increasingly falling down the recipients of British foreign aid and the little that remains is given to NGOs operating within India. Again the attached story really isn't a good case study for what foreign aid aims to do.
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04-02-2020, 10:24
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Foreign aid is often a 'soft power' tool to remind the recipients who their friends are. Youcan guarantee that every item delivered is festooned with UK flags...
In the case of India, there was a huge vested interest in having a nation that was growing hugely and is armed with nuclear weapons to be on 'our' side and aid is just one tool to do this. The big worry is India looking to the north east to China. An India/China alliance would be something to behold..
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04-02-2020, 11:01
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Our tax money, and that of other rich countries, is being used to grease the wheels on commerce and industry around the globe. Some gain income through employment due to this, but the majority of the profit goes to the bosses.
Some areas are seeing a collapse in their farming industries, and free donations of food undercut local farmers who either give up, or fall in line with, for example, EU demands for production of out-of-season crops for EU consumption.
And in many countries there is no Social Security, so families are large so that income for hard times and support of the sick and aged is possible but not guaranteed. Very hard times are predicted for many areas of the globe due to famine and drought, so mass migration or death will occur. The migration scenario has already started, with many homing-in on the richer areas of the world for support and shelter. But we can't feed and house them all, no matter how dire their circumstances are.
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04-02-2020, 13:19
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Re: Overseas aid
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I don't really think that article is a good example of what and who foreign aid is meant to target anyway.
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Quote:
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Again the attached story really isn't a good case study for what foreign aid aims to do.
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Please feel free to cite a good example .
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