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Old 16-02-2020, 15:55   #61
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Good for you - sad though that you don't have any concern for anyone who's worse off than you and can't afford VM/Sky/Netflix et al. Still if you're alright ........
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It's about time the BBC TAX is removed. I have never agreed with it and never will. I say make them go subscription amd lets see how many are still willing to pay and watch.

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Good for you - sad though that you don't have any concern for anyone who's worse off than you and can't afford VM/Sky/Netflix et al. Still if you're alright ........
If they set the subscription price the same as the BBC tax they will still be able to watch the BBC channels.
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Old 16-02-2020, 16:04   #63
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It's about time the BBC TAX is removed. I have never agreed with it and never will. I say make them go subscription amd lets see how many are still willing to pay and watch.

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If they set the subscription price the same as the BBC tax they will still be able to watch there BBC channels.
Sorry I was responding to Pip's post however it's unlikely that what is made available from subscription will be anywhere near what is currently provided especially as the goverment want to increase the World Service coverage which is hardly a money spinner. But as you say let's wait and see.
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Good for you - sad though that you don't have any concern for anyone who's worse off than you and can't afford VM/Sky/Netflix et al. Still if you're alright ........
No concern at all for people watching or not watching tv, I have concern for people who are homeless or can't affotd to feed themselves but have zero concern for those that can't afford to watch tv or about the same level of concern shown for me who doesn't watch tv but is still forced to pay this outdated tax
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You don't get something for nothing.
Ironically, the Labour manifesto was exactly the opposite of that statement.

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Which will mean the loss of TV channels and most of its radio stations.
Well as seen as where I live I can pick up about 5no. Different BBC regional stations I would certainly think they could easily lose a few.
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Quite frankly I couldn't give a monkeys! I haven't watched UK terrestial TV for years nor a BBC radio station, they could shut the lot for all I care.

Haven't paid the license fee for years either despite the begging letters and an inspection every 3-5 years because the don't believe me until they see it. They still keep harrassing though.
You're in the minority. Fanboys of Star Trek/ the Expanse etc, are a tiny fraction of the the viewing figures the BBC gets. BBC1 had 55 million watched it at some point last quarter, let alone it other channels radio stations and services it provides. At £13 a month it's incredible value for the original content compared to VM/Sky subs and their 20 mins of ads an hour. Subscription only it would be a heck of a lot more than £13.

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. Quarterly reach of the leading 20 TV channels in the United Kingdom (UK) as of 3rd quarter 2019(in millions)
Reach in millions*
BBC 1 55
Channel 4 51.1
BBC 2 49.6
Channel 5 47.7
ITV 45.3
ITV 2 39
E4 30.2
ITV HD 28.7
BBC 4 28.3
Even BBC4 is watched by more than any Sky channel !

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Well as seen as where I live I can pick up about 5no. Different BBC regional stations I would certainly think they could easily lose a few.
I would say it's regional services, both TV and radio, are one of the most valuable it provides. Particularly in flood situations like we have atm. A commercial provider wouldn't do this unless they could see a profit.
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Well as seen as where I live I can pick up about 5no. Different BBC regional stations I would certainly think they could easily lose a few.
Easily, a fair few have more people working on them than listening to them...

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You're in the minority. Fanboys of Star Trek/ the Expanse etc, are a tiny fraction of the the viewing figures the BBC gets. BBC1 had 55 million watched it at some point last quarter, let alone it other channels radio stations and services it provides. At £13 a month it's incredible value for the original content compared to VM/Sky subs and their 20 mins of ads an hour. Subscription only it would be a heck of a lot more than £13.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...e-uk-by-reach/

Even BBC4 is watched by more than any Sky channel !
Oh yes it's tremendous value, never watch their stuff but it's still marvellous that people don't have to pay more for the "service". Wonder why you think auntie won't be able to maintain it's level of output and quality, we all clearly watch it according to the stats so will be more than happy to subscribe, you know coz it's so wonderful
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Oh yes it's tremendous value, never watch their stuff but it's still marvellous that people don't have to pay more for the "service". Wonder why you think auntie won't be able to maintain it's level of output and quality, we all clearly watch it according to the stats so will be more than happy to subscribe, you know coz it's so wonderful
Again, you're in the vast minority (but like Pip you don't pay anyway, do you ? ).

I'd be for scrapping the fee if it came from another non-commercial source e.g. general taxation. Otherwise it would lose its unique programming This might be fairer from an ability to pay viewpoint. Beyond entertainment it's public service remit i.e news/weather/regional/educational services are often overlooked and taken for granted. People will always say they don't want to pay for anything if given an option, then complain when they don't get anything....

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Again, you're in the vast minority (but like Pierre you don't pay anyway, do you ? ).

I'd be for scrapping the fee if it came from another non-commercial source e.g. general taxation. Otherwise it would lose its unique programming This might be fairer from an ability to pay viewpoint. Beyond entertainment it's public service remit i.e news/weather/regional/educational services are often overlooked and taken for granted. People will always say they don't want to pay for anything if given an option, then complain when they don't get anything....
Actually I do pay it and resent doing so, Pierre pays it to I'd imagine but don't let facts get in the way of anything. The public service remit is an outdated argument to, it's why I turned from pro to anti licencing as from an educational perspective there's many other sources you can find what you need, often more in depth and more specific to the subject, same with the bloody weather
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Actually I do pay it and resent doing so, Pierre pays it to I'd imagine but don't let facts get in the way of anything. The public service remit is an outdated argument to, it's why I turned from pro to anti licencing as from an educational perspective there's many other sources you can find what you need, often more in depth and more specific to the subject, same with the bloody weather
Ok apologies, I thought you said on another thread you didn't pay, but I'm obviously mistaken.
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Even BBC4 is watched by more than any Sky channel !.
It needs to be addressed as kicking the can down the road won’t help things.

I am recently a man in his 50’s. I watch Graham Norton, Question time, occasionally Match of the Day and perhaps the odd drama. I listen to Radio 4 and 5 on occasion. Do I think I get Value for what I pay for... questionable. But it’s not a massive amount so I can live with it.

I pay less per month for amazon prime. Watch Vikings, Picard, The grand Tour and a host of other things i dip in and out of. I also get free delivery on Amazon.

I watch Netflix, for next to nothing, because of the multiple users function to share the cost and I watch loads of stuff on there.

I have Sky, which is expensive IMO, but I watch the football, F1, Golf, (BBC has naff all sport) yesterday, History, sky news (except morning can’t stand Kay Burley), kids watch all their channels and lots of other stuff.

I watch ITV & Ch4

So based on everything the BBC is a small % of what I consume, and I really could live without it.

My kids, don’t watch anything on the BBC at all, and they’re the future. The next generation as they grow up will not be able to comprehend to be forced to pay for a service they simply do not use.
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Ok apologies, I thought you said on another thread you didn't pay, but I'm obviously mistaken.
No you're not mistaken, I move a lot and my licence status depends entirely upon how close I am to my children
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Good for you - sad though that you don't have any concern for anyone who's worse off than you and can't afford VM/Sky/Netflix et al. Still if you're alright ........
I don't have VM or Sky TV. However there are plenty of freeview channels for those who do not wish to sub to the BBC. Why should I have any concern for anyone who wishes to watch BBC? Should I also be concerned about those who want to watch Netflix but can't afford it?
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I don't have VM or Sky TV. However there are plenty of freeview channels for those who do not wish to sub to the BBC. Why should I have any concern for anyone who wishes to watch BBC? Should I also be concerned about those who want to watch Netflix but can't afford it?
Which freeview channels are you referring to? If you receive anything via Freeview you need a licence (see https://www.freeview.co.uk/help/do-i...watch-freeview). I can only assume you fall into the the category of "You don’t need a TV Licence if you never watch or record programmes as they’re being shown on TV, on any channel, or live on an online TV service, and you never download or watch BBC programmes on iPlayer – live, catch up or on demand.This applies to any provider or device you use, including a TV, desktop computer, laptop, mobile phone, tablet, games console, digital box or Blu-ray/DVD/VHS recorder" as defined on the TV licencing website (https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ99). If so, that's fine but a lot of people won't fall into that bracket.
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